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Is Davey Johnson HoF-worthy?
« Topic Start: September 21, 2012, 01:34:18 PM »
The case for:
.564 career winning percentage (9th among those who have managed at least 2000 games)
1997 MoY (Could win again this year)
1279 wins (34th all time, should be 31st by the end of the season).
1 world series championship
1 pennant
6 trips to the playoffs in 12 years

For comparison, Sparky Anderson was the last manager inducted.  A .545 winning percentage, 3 world series titles and two NL pennants.

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Re: Is Davey Johnson HoF-worthy?
« Reply #1: September 21, 2012, 01:36:38 PM »
No doubt. Just look at that winning percentage.

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Re: Is Davey Johnson HoF-worthy?
« Reply #2: September 21, 2012, 01:44:40 PM »
Yes.

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Re: Is Davey Johnson HoF-worthy?
« Reply #3: September 21, 2012, 01:48:56 PM »
More than worthy by miles and miles and miles and wins and wins and wins!

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Re: Is Davey Johnson HoF-worthy?
« Reply #4: September 21, 2012, 02:07:27 PM »
And more importantly, if he wins a World Series here, he's worthy of being our first human-looking statue!

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Re: Is Davey Johnson HoF-worthy?
« Reply #5: September 21, 2012, 02:43:48 PM »
Yes. (Self-evident truth)

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Re: Is Davey Johnson HoF-worthy?
« Reply #6: September 21, 2012, 02:46:52 PM »
And more importantly, if he wins a World Series here, he's worthy of being our first human-looking statue!

Okay, even the SSS hates those weird statues.

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Re: Is Davey Johnson HoF-worthy?
« Reply #7: September 21, 2012, 02:47:36 PM »
6 heads reading 6 lineup cards.

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Re: Is Davey Johnson HoF-worthy?
« Reply #8: September 21, 2012, 02:51:10 PM »
Today's not the day to take this view, but honestly, I think he needs another WS win.  Sparky got in because he managed the Big Red Machine and then another mini-dynasty with the mid-80s Tigers. 

The big pluses for Davey's case:  Second highest win% of those managers not in the Hall; solid record as a player which counts too. Another big thing in his favor is that he compares favorably to Whitey Herzog, who's in already.

 The big minuses:  "Only" one WS win, relatively few years (and thus, overall wins) as a manager. 

I think Davey's in line behind Cox and La Russa and maybe Torre and ahead of the likes of Piniella and Leyland.  If we end up being the 2012-2017 dynasty we want to be and manage to win a series or even two and Davey is the manager for all that, then I think he's in.  But as he sits right now, borderline, to no - a lot fewer managers get in than everyday players.  Of course, as much as he says he doesn't want it, winning Manager of the Year this year would help, too.

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Re: Is Davey Johnson HoF-worthy?
« Reply #9: September 21, 2012, 03:51:03 PM »
Yes.

They should invite Jim Riggleman as a guest of honor to a game

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Re: Is Davey Johnson HoF-worthy?
« Reply #10: September 21, 2012, 04:01:22 PM »
He needs another ring

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Re: Is Davey Johnson HoF-worthy?
« Reply #11: September 21, 2012, 04:18:41 PM »
Tim Kurkjian was asked this on ESPN today.  I recorded it and will post it later.

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Re: Is Davey Johnson HoF-worthy?
« Reply #12: September 21, 2012, 04:48:14 PM »
Tim Kurkjian was asked this on ESPN today.  I recorded it and will post it later.

cool - what did he say?

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Re: Is Davey Johnson HoF-worthy?
« Reply #13: September 21, 2012, 04:51:11 PM »
Daniel Bryan Wins YES YES YES

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Re: Is Davey Johnson HoF-worthy?
« Reply #14: September 21, 2012, 05:29:09 PM »
Maybe not a world series win, but another pennant.  A world series win, an LCS win, one or two LDS wins, probably makes a better case for him.

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Re: Is Davey Johnson HoF-worthy?
« Reply #15: September 21, 2012, 06:11:45 PM »
6 heads reading 6 lineup cards.

Six sets of giant, frightening, Chicklet teeth smiling in different directions.

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Re: Is Davey Johnson HoF-worthy?
« Reply #16: September 21, 2012, 09:10:12 PM »
YES!  Just for putting up with Angelos!

Speaking of which.vote for Charlie for the Ford Frick Award on HOF Facebook site!

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Re: Is Davey Johnson HoF-worthy?
« Reply #17: September 23, 2012, 10:20:15 PM »
Is Davey Johnson HoF-worthy?



As a player?    ;)

His career stats are comparable to 2ndB already in the Hall:


http://www.baseball-almanac.com/hof/hofst2b.shtml

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Re: Is Davey Johnson HoF-worthy?
« Reply #18: September 23, 2012, 10:25:54 PM »
The big red machine was a more dominant team than any Davy has managed.  So Davy deserves more accolades than Sparky

The case for:
.564 career winning percentage (9th among those who have managed at least 2000 games)
1997 MoY (Could win again this year)
1279 wins (34th all time, should be 31st by the end of the season).
1 world series championship
1 pennant
6 trips to the playoffs in 12 years

For comparison, Sparky Anderson was the last manager inducted.  A .545 winning percentage, 3 world series titles and two NL pennants.