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Offline Dave B

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Re: Playoff Ticket Secondary Market Watch
« Reply #500: October 10, 2012, 05:38:42 PM »
The low price for the game today is very fluid, lots of buyers and lots of sellers discounting their prices.

Since the Nats came to town I can't remember ever seeing the quantity of seats for sale as what is now listed for Friday. I'd expect some real bargains to be available by that afternoon.


i dont expect a huge drop for friday. a do or die game on a friday night. that should sell well. $40 might be the floor. tomorrow could still fall a bit. probably a lot of pessimism setting in.

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Re: Playoff Ticket Secondary Market Watch
« Reply #501: October 10, 2012, 05:54:21 PM »
How was Standing Room today? Was it a mosh pit? If I find a good spot tomorrow and have to pee should I just go in my pants

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Re: Playoff Ticket Secondary Market Watch
« Reply #502: October 10, 2012, 06:27:33 PM »
How was Standing Room today? Was it a mosh pit? If I find a good spot tomorrow and have to pee should I just go in my pants

did you see the footage on TV?  more than 45k fans, people were standing everywhere.


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Re: Playoff Ticket Secondary Market Watch
« Reply #503: October 10, 2012, 06:36:50 PM »
What's the refund policy on NLCS tickets purchased online from the Nationals website if they do not make it? Also can print at home tickets only be printed one time? I've never used this before

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Re: Playoff Ticket Secondary Market Watch
« Reply #504: October 10, 2012, 06:43:58 PM »
What's the refund policy on NLCS tickets purchased online from the Nationals website if they do not make it? Also can print at home tickets only be printed one time? I've never used this before

For individual ticket purchases the Nats will refund the full amount about a week after the season ends.  If you bought the tickets on StubHub, your money is refunded by Stubhub and the original purchaser has their money refunded by the team.

Print at home tickets can be printed as often as you like but they are bar coded so that they can only be used once.

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Re: Playoff Ticket Secondary Market Watch
« Reply #505: October 10, 2012, 06:46:09 PM »
i dont expect a huge drop for friday. a do or die game on a friday night. that should sell well. $40 might be the floor. tomorrow could still fall a bit. probably a lot of pessimism setting in.

Almost a fifth of the tickets for the ballpark are listed for sale and the number is rising not falling.  We'll see if they win tomorrow but if I were looking for a ticket for Friday I'd wait until less than three hours before gametime.

Offline BCH89

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Re: Playoff Ticket Secondary Market Watch
« Reply #506: October 10, 2012, 06:47:09 PM »
For individual ticket purchases the Nats will refund the full amount about a week after the season ends.  If you bought the tickets on StubHub, your money is refunded by Stubhub and the original purchaser has their money refunded by the team.

Print at home tickets can be printed as often as you like but they are bar coded so that they can only be used once.

Alright so if I bought the tickets from the nationals.com sale they will be refunded when the Nationals season is over and I printed the tickets but they printed messy so I used another printer and they came out fine and as long as I only use them once, I should be alright.

Do I have all this correct? Thanks for the help as well!


Offline Coladar

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Re: Playoff Ticket Secondary Market Watch
« Reply #507: October 10, 2012, 07:02:31 PM »
Why are people selling Friday? Are there a ton of idiots who think they'll run away with the profits? Meaning the buyer gets refunded the cost of the ticket, not the price he paid on Stubhub? Cause it don't make sense otherwise.. Friday means we are back in it. That there'd be a reason to go. I can understand the bailout tomorrow between the game time and past two games. Friday is late, do or die, what baseball is all about, awesomeness. And 1/5 of the seats are for sale? Huh?

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Re: Playoff Ticket Secondary Market Watch
« Reply #508: October 10, 2012, 07:20:15 PM »
Alright so if I bought the tickets from the nationals.com sale they will be refunded when the Nationals season is over and I printed the tickets but they printed messy so I used another printer and they came out fine and as long as I only use them once, I should be alright.

Do I have all this correct? Thanks for the help as well!

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Offline Dave B

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Re: Playoff Ticket Secondary Market Watch
« Reply #509: October 10, 2012, 08:02:32 PM »
did you see the footage on TV?  more than 45k fans, people were standing everywhere.



but was it like 5 people deep all around

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Re: Playoff Ticket Secondary Market Watch
« Reply #510: October 10, 2012, 08:09:56 PM »
but was it like 5 people deep all around

LOL at people who thought it wouldn't sell out.  I predicted a record for this game about a week ago. No brainer.

I expect every postseason game to be a complete SRO sell out.

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Re: Playoff Ticket Secondary Market Watch
« Reply #511: October 10, 2012, 08:12:06 PM »
I expect every postseason game to be a complete SRO sell out.

Great. Bait someone into saying, "All two them?".

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« Reply #512: October 10, 2012, 08:24:58 PM »
Great. Bait someone into saying, "All two them?".

Whatever. If they play it, they will come.

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Re: Playoff Ticket Secondary Market Watch
« Reply #513: October 11, 2012, 08:12:59 AM »
Updating my post of yesterday morning - lined-through price/availability is as of that post, amount at right is as of right now:

NLDS
Game 2 - 6,286 left starting at $34 4,089 left starting at $21
Game 3 - 7,426 starting at $54 7,487 starting at $57.99

NLCS
Game 1 - 4,315 starting at $109 4,728 starting at $68
Game 2 - 4,552 starting at $109 4,973 starting at $67
Game 3 - 4,493 starting at $109 4,803 starting at $83.99
Game 4 - 4,348 starting at $125 4,675 starting at $89

World Series
Game 1 - 3,229 starting at $459 3,235 starting at $405
Game 2 - 3,080 starting at $484 3,088 starting at $480
Game 3 - 3,121 starting at $490 3,125 starting at $475
Game 4 - 3,042 starting at $580 3,042 starting at $585

Offline OldChelsea

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Re: Playoff Ticket Secondary Market Watch
« Reply #514: October 12, 2012, 09:31:09 AM »
Updating my post of yesterday morning - lined-through price/availability is as of that post, amount at right is as of right now:

NLDS
Game 3 - 7,487 left starting at $57.99 3,453 left starting at $70

NLCS
Game 1 - 4,728 starting at $68 6,047 starting at $68.99
Game 2 - 4,973 starting at $67 6,320 starting at $60
Game 3 - 4,803 starting at $83.99 5,739 starting at $64
Game 4 - 4,675 starting at $89 5,689 starting at $92

World Series
Game 1 - 3,235 starting at $405 3,231 starting at $450
Game 2 - 3,088 starting at $480 3,085 starting at $480
Game 3 - 3,125 starting at $475 3,126 starting at $475
Game 4 - 3,042 starting at $585 3,041 starting at $585

Offline cmdterps44

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Re: Playoff Ticket Secondary Market Watch
« Reply #515: October 12, 2012, 09:32:30 AM »
Oh man. Do standing room tickets require the person to purchase them at the box office?

Offline 1995hoo

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Re: Playoff Ticket Secondary Market Watch
« Reply #516: October 12, 2012, 09:39:36 AM »
What's the refund policy on NLCS tickets purchased online from the Nationals website if they do not make it? Also can print at home tickets only be printed one time? I've never used this before

They refund everything EXCEPT the $4 "handling fee" (which is a per-order fee and not a per-ticket fee, but it's still annoying that they keep it).

Print-at-home tickets can be printed multiple times.

Offline Count Walewski

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Re: Playoff Ticket Secondary Market Watch
« Reply #517: October 12, 2012, 09:41:31 AM »
You can even (not legally, but it's physically possible) print out your online tickets, then sell them electronically on StubHub, then sell the print-outs you made to a scalper for cash.

Whoever buys that ticket from the scalper is SOL though, so this would be a major league jerk thing to do, literally.

Offline spidernat

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Re: Playoff Ticket Secondary Market Watch
« Reply #518: October 12, 2012, 09:44:49 AM »
I've known that to happen. Two groups of four ended up with the same seats at a Redskins game. The out of towners had the "legit" tickets and the locals were the ones that got the shaft.

Offline 1995hoo

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Re: Playoff Ticket Secondary Market Watch
« Reply #519: October 12, 2012, 09:49:54 AM »
I've known that to happen. Two groups of four ended up with the same seats at a Redskins game. The out of towners had the "legit" tickets and the locals were the ones that got the shaft.

I had that happen in the days PRIOR TO the .PDF tickets and the tickets were ones purchased from the box office. Went to the Kennedy Center in 1993 and after I was settled in my seats, the usher came along with two other people who had tickets for the exact same seats for the exact same performance. Since my tickets were valid, they couldn't evict me......damn if that's not a reason to get there early if you can. Never heard of the BOX OFFICE doing that, much less for a "highbrow" venue like the Kennedy Center, and both of our sets of tickets had been purchased from the box office.

The risk with what Count Walewski describes is that the StubHub user agreements state that if the buyer is unable to use the tickets, StubHub will attempt to secure replacements, and if those replacements cost more than what the original seller was charging, the seller is liable for the difference. I have no idea whether there's been any kind of litigation over "reasonableness," e.g. you sold an Upper Infield Gallery ticket for $45 and StubHub bought the guy a Presidents' Club ticket for $500 and then tried to stick you with the difference—that seems unreasonable to me, but at the same time, if you try to cheat the process I think from an ethical standpoint you have no basis for complaint.

Offline cmdterps44

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Re: Playoff Ticket Secondary Market Watch
« Reply #520: October 12, 2012, 09:56:13 AM »
Oh man Nationals.com is putting up "35$" tickets on the website but as soon as you click them, they are taken down or "sold out".

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Re: Playoff Ticket Secondary Market Watch
« Reply #521: October 12, 2012, 09:57:03 AM »
You can even (not legally, but it's physically possible) print out your online tickets, then sell them electronically on StubHub, then sell the print-outs you made to a scalper for cash.

Whoever buys that ticket from the scalper is SOL though, so this would be a major league jerk thing to do, literally.

Wouldn't the person who enters the ballpark first be able to get in, even if they had the "fake" tickets?


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Re: Playoff Ticket Secondary Market Watch
« Reply #522: October 12, 2012, 09:59:45 AM »
Wouldn't the person who enters the ballpark first be able to get in, even if they had the "fake" tickets?



True. The only reason that didn't happen at the incident I mentioned was because even as recently as a couple of years ago the Redskins were doing tickets the old fashioned way.

Offline santanaf

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Re: Playoff Ticket Secondary Market Watch
« Reply #523: October 12, 2012, 10:09:22 AM »
Wouldn't the person who enters the ballpark first be able to get in, even if they had the "fake" tickets?

Not necessarily. The bar codes are not always consistent, and I think StubHub may even change the bar code of the final delivery ticket to protect the buyer from the seller using the original (or selling it). Sending your ticket as a transfer can actually alter the original bar code, effectively cancelling the previous one. This is why, in my ticket group, I sometimes send the tickets to people who haven't paid in full, with the understanding that I can cancel their tickets at any time. Also, if you lose or have your ticket stolen, and you either had it delivered electronically or manage it in My Nationals Tickets, you can cancel the ticket and re-issue with a new bar code. The Nationals could even monitor to see where the stolen tickets are used in an attempt to build a case and find the offending scalper.

There are lots of ways to game this e-ticket system into ripping people off, but it's all traceable back to you if you use your original bar code.

I think the rule of thumb as a buyer is simple, never buy a ticket from a scalper that's printed on a piece of regular paper. And if you're buying a regular ticket from someone outside of the gate, make them escort you to the turnstile to make sure you get in OK. This is important.

If I'm a STH, and I walk out of the metro I can sell my hard ticket to a scalper. He'll obviously buy it because it's a real ticket. Then I can walk up to the ticket office, show my STH Card and tell them that I left my tickets at home or say they were lost/stolen. They will cancel the original and reissue. Then, anyone who buys my original has just bought a completely legit but invalid ticket.

Offline RobDibblesGhost

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Re: Playoff Ticket Secondary Market Watch
« Reply #524: October 12, 2012, 10:12:04 AM »
Wouldn't the person who enters the ballpark first be able to get in, even if they had the "fake" tickets?



I'm not sure, but StubHub might deactivate the bar code for the sold tickets and then assign new bar code numbers on the tickets the buyer receives and prints out.