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Offline GMUNat

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Re: Where is Gio in the Cy Young running?
« Reply #25: September 11, 2012, 11:47:27 PM »
I don't know about that. I don't think Dickey is the better pitcher at all, he just seems to fell into something that works and has worked incredibly hard to make it work. I don't think he's the better pitcher though.

He's the better pitcher for 2012 which is what matters in the 2012 Cy Young race.

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Re: Where is Gio in the Cy Young running?
« Reply #26: September 11, 2012, 11:52:38 PM »
I almost tend to the view that pitchers who are having incredibly flukily great years parlaying a weird/fringe talent into wild success deserve the award even more.

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Re: Where is Gio in the Cy Young running?
« Reply #27: September 12, 2012, 08:00:44 AM »
He's the better pitcher for 2012 which is what matters in the 2012 Cy Young race.

Yes.


I almost tend to the view that pitchers who are having incredibly flukily great years parlaying a weird/fringe talent into wild success deserve the award even more.

Sure, why not?  Memorable, and fun.

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Re: Where is Gio in the Cy Young running?
« Reply #28: September 12, 2012, 08:10:54 AM »
I don't really care who gets it. Dickey has a great story and probably deserves it the most. Gio's in line for it, and he doesn't get one this year, he - like almost every pitcher in the Nats' rotation - will have a fighting chance at the award for years to come. They're ALL nasty, and not too far along in their careers.

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Re: Where is Gio in the Cy Young running?
« Reply #29: September 12, 2012, 08:34:08 AM »
If the Nats win the World Series this year, none of this will matter.

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Re: Where is Gio in the Cy Young running?
« Reply #30: September 12, 2012, 08:53:55 AM »
Dickey shouldn't get crap. Mets stink and he's a gimmick that's having a fluke season. Gio is leading a team to their first playoff birth in team history and is having an amazing season.

Wow, can't believe Gio is pitching so well while he's pregnant!  That's definitely Cy Young - worthy.

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Re: Where is Gio in the Cy Young running?
« Reply #31: September 12, 2012, 09:37:38 AM »
Mets stink and he's a gimmick that's having a fluke season.
Neither point is relevant.  Mets stink, so what? It isn't MVP, it's Cy Young.  Fluke season, so what?  The award is based on the season at hand, career at large is not a factor.

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Re: Where is Gio in the Cy Young running?
« Reply #32: September 12, 2012, 10:34:31 AM »
Wow, can't believe Gio is pitching so well while he's pregnant!  That's definitely Cy Young - worthy.

Hahaha, fantastic catch.

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Re: Where is Gio in the Cy Young running?
« Reply #33: September 12, 2012, 05:37:45 PM »
Now that Gio has the best record in the league...

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Re: Where is Gio in the Cy Young running?
« Reply #34: September 13, 2012, 03:03:01 PM »
Here's how I see it: LA's Kershaw just doesn't have enuff wins, but I think he is #1 in every other category.   Gio has the wins, is among the leaders in stats, & is a feature pitcher on the best team in baseball.   Dickey has had a spectacular year, but I have him slightly behind Gio, his trump card is playing in NY.  Cueto will lose votes to teammate Aroldis Chapman. I'm curious what each has done against upper echelon lineups. WTH, I'm a homer...give it to GIO!!

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Re: Where is Gio in the Cy Young running?
« Reply #35: September 13, 2012, 03:24:51 PM »
I have Kershaw being the most deserving but BWAA still overvalue wins so that hurts his chances considerably. I think Gio has a shot but he doesn't quite have the innings or the story that Dickey has. Conversely Dickey isn't on a playoff team (another silly thing to evaluate a pitcher on).

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Re: Where is Gio in the Cy Young running?
« Reply #36: September 13, 2012, 03:28:37 PM »
Gio has overtaken Dickey in the ESPN Cy Young predictor.

http://espn.go.com/mlb/features/cyyoung

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Re: Where is Gio in the Cy Young running?
« Reply #37: September 13, 2012, 03:38:03 PM »
Being the best pitcher on the best team is going to go a long way - I would imagine

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Re: Where is Gio in the Cy Young running?
« Reply #38: September 13, 2012, 03:54:09 PM »
That Victory Bonus in the formula is beyond absurd.

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Re: Where is Gio in the Cy Young running?
« Reply #39: September 13, 2012, 04:27:46 PM »
Anyone else think there should be an award solely for relievers?  Call it the "Rollie Fingers", "Dennis Eckersley" or "Goose Gossage" award.

Maybe after Mo retires they will call it the Mariano Rivera award.

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Re: Where is Gio in the Cy Young running?
« Reply #40: September 13, 2012, 04:35:54 PM »
Anyone else think there should be an award solely for relievers?  Call it the "Rollie Fingers", "Dennis Eckersley" or "Goose Gossage" award.

Maybe after Mo retires they will call it the Mariano Rivera award.

There is a "Rolaids" award - for relievers

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Re: Where is Gio in the Cy Young running?
« Reply #41: September 13, 2012, 04:51:37 PM »
Anyone else think there should be an award solely for relievers?  Call it the "Rollie Fingers", "Dennis Eckersley" or "Goose Gossage" award.

Maybe after Mo retires they will call it the Mariano Rivera award.


Not only does this award exist, but a Washington National won it as recently as 2005:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolaids_Relief_Man_Award


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Re: Where is Gio in the Cy Young running?
« Reply #42: September 13, 2012, 05:28:26 PM »
There is a "Rolaids" award - for relievers

You can't spell Rolaids without Aroldis!

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Re: Where is Gio in the Cy Young running?
« Reply #43: September 13, 2012, 07:09:03 PM »
You can't spell Rolaids without Aroldis!

oh my god.  that is actually insane

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Re: Where is Gio in the Cy Young running?
« Reply #44: September 13, 2012, 07:11:54 PM »
LOL


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Re: Where is Gio in the Cy Young running?
« Reply #45: September 13, 2012, 07:23:06 PM »
There should be an award for bad relievers so Henry can get some love

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Re: Where is Gio in the Cy Young running?
« Reply #46: September 13, 2012, 08:00:02 PM »
Wow, I feel dumb.  Nice to see it exists.  Should get more polpularity and the Cy Young should be limited to Starters.

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Re: Where is Gio in the Cy Young running?
« Reply #47: September 13, 2012, 09:16:14 PM »
There should be an award for bad relievers so Henry can get some love

The MDS Face Shart Award?

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Re: Where is Gio in the Cy Young running?
« Reply #48: September 13, 2012, 09:52:55 PM »
A junk punch from Blue as soon as he gets through his backlog.

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Re: Where is Gio in the Cy Young running?
« Reply #49: September 13, 2012, 10:28:10 PM »
I'd rather know what beer Gio enjoys

There should be an award for bad relievers so Henry can get some love