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Offline Count Walewski

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Re: Plaudits for Werth
« Reply #75: September 04, 2012, 11:24:47 PM »
Werth thrived in Philadelphia where he was surrounded by other good hitters in the lineup. That is happening for him in Washington this year.

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Re: Plaudits for Werth
« Reply #76: September 04, 2012, 11:26:11 PM »
He also has the best walkup music in the biz.

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Re: Plaudits for Werth
« Reply #77: September 04, 2012, 11:30:49 PM »
I thought the White Whale was a leadoff hitter


I think it was kinda both, with the assumption that Desi and Danny have become the long term options up the middle, that left CF and leadoff as needing addressed...

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Re: Plaudits for Werth
« Reply #78: September 04, 2012, 11:34:59 PM »
Seriously, the guy has become the player he was in Philly. I'd love to see him hit for some more power but I can't complain about anything he's doing right now.

If he helps us win 1 World Series, the contract is worth it.

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Re: Plaudits for Werth
« Reply #79: September 05, 2012, 12:16:51 AM »
I thought the White Whale was a leadoff hitter

Werth is looking like a prototypical leadoff hitter. Sees lots of pitches, gets on base a ton, loves to take walks or hit doubles.

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Re: Plaudits for Werth
« Reply #80: September 05, 2012, 12:19:06 AM »
I think Werth is swinging for the fences less this year and instead is more focused at getting on base. If he keeps the average up we're looking at one heck of a lineup in 2013/14.

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Re: Plaudits for Werth
« Reply #81: September 05, 2012, 07:03:33 AM »
Werth is looking like a prototypical leadoff hitter. Sees lots of pitches, gets on base a ton, loves to take walks or hit doubles.

This version of werth with less pop but a heck more on base is what I want to see, we have popin other areas

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Re: Plaudits for Werth
« Reply #82: September 05, 2012, 08:33:29 AM »
I thought the White Whale was a leadoff hitter

As the Nat's get better, pieces fall into place, and Rizzo smokes "I told you so" flavored cigars, my identity will evolve and change, until one day..."We should probably ugrade at middle reliever" or "I'd like to see more speed on the bench" will be the arm-chair GM complaints. That will be a good day. That's when the White Whale, will really be a goldfish.

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Re: Plaudits for Werth
« Reply #83: September 05, 2012, 08:56:07 AM »
As the Nat's get better, pieces fall into place, and Rizzo smokes "I told you so" flavored cigars, my identity will evolve and change, until one day..."We should probably ugrade at middle reliever" or "I'd like to see more speed on the bench" will be the arm-chair GM complaints. That will be a good day. That's when the White Whale, will really be a goldfish.

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Re: Plaudits for Werth
« Reply #84: September 05, 2012, 08:57:42 AM »
I thought the White Whale was a leadoff hitter

Combination CF/leadoff. 

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Re: Plaudits for Werth
« Reply #85: September 05, 2012, 08:59:58 AM »
I think Werth is swinging for the fences less this year

Werth has said that his power has not yet returned after the wrist injury.  It is to his credit that he recognizes this and adjusts, but I wonder, when his power does return, will he start swinging for the fences again and return to 2011 form?


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Re: Plaudits for Werth
« Reply #86: September 05, 2012, 09:03:18 AM »
Combination CF/leadoff. 

Well ... we managed to get both. Honestly, I'll be disappointed if we pursue Bourn this offseason. Especially since I'm betting he's going to get more than a 3 year deal.

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Re: Plaudits for Werth
« Reply #87: September 05, 2012, 09:19:08 AM »
Werth thrived in Philadelphia where he was surrounded by other good hitters in the lineup. That is happening for him in Washington this year.

Which is why he's overpaid at his price, but since it's not my money, hey, I love the guy.  His triple-slash is about exactly what you'd expect from him outside of CB Park - his contract year .532 SLG was really an outlier.  Except for that year, he's having his best triple-slash year ever.

And he does seem to have adjusted his approach - critics will point out his BABIP is an unsustainable .384, which is right, but I'm more interested in his % rates*.  His BB% is actually slightly down from his career average, and his HR% is well down from his average, BUT his K% is way down - almost 8% less than his career average and his extra base hit% is up - it looks to me like the stats bear out what Davey and he says he's doing - taking fewer pitches and looking to drive base hits.  Because of that he's making a LOT more in-play contact - that's resulting in good things (higher numbers of hits, higher BA, etc.) and a few not-so-good things (higher percentage of infield flies, lower percentage of HRs to FBs, etc.).  Even if he reverted to his career average BABIP, it'd shave his BA down some, but he's still be very useful at the top of the lineup.

Overall, he's become a really good leadoff guy - sort of the prototypical "leadoff guy with power" as opposed to the "speedy, steal a base" leadoff guy.  For my money, I'd rather have a smart baserunner smash a double in a gap than have a waterbug leg out a grounder and steal second.  Same result, and doubles are cooler.

* - keep in mind he's only got 235 PAs because of the injury, so there's an SSS caveat to everything here.

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Re: Plaudits for Werth
« Reply #88: September 05, 2012, 09:21:23 AM »
Well ... we managed to get both. Honestly, I'll be disappointed if we pursue Bourn this offseason. Especially since I'm betting he's going to get more than a 3 year deal.

Agreed.  The white whale was the single player who could do both functions above average, but with Werth you get above average leadoff and with Harper probably at least average CF, so time to move on.

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Re: Plaudits for Werth
« Reply #89: September 05, 2012, 11:00:46 AM »
he's still extraordinarily patient.  4.3 P/PA is in line with 2010 and 2011, but down from the 4.5 / 4.6 he had from 2005 to 2009.  His BB% is a tick below his career average (11.5% v. 12.1%), but the drop  in Ks is dramatic, as LostY says.

Looking at his BR page, his swung at strikes are at a career high (68%).  the next closest year is 2010 (67%) while last year was 64%. First pitch swing % is also like 2010 and at his career high (19%, v. career avg. of 15%).  Strikes looking declined this year 4% and is closer to 2010.  2011 more closely resembles 2007 - 2009.

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Re: Plaudits for Werth
« Reply #90: September 05, 2012, 11:02:05 AM »
The Werth/Harper 1-2 punch at the top of the line up has been serious cash ass money these days ...

I like it just fine

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Re: Plaudits for Werth
« Reply #91: September 05, 2012, 11:03:13 AM »
Yep, Werth and Harper at 1 and 2 in the lineup seem to feed off one another, and Harper in center is doing the job.  Exciting times!

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Re: Plaudits for Werth
« Reply #93: September 09, 2012, 11:00:09 AM »
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“Had a nice little rain delay,” Werth said. “Got a little massage, changed clothes, had a chicken salad and tied it up. It was well-written.”

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Re: Plaudits for Werth
« Reply #94: September 10, 2012, 05:39:38 PM »
All in an afternoon's work.  8)

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Re: Plaudits for Werth
« Reply #95: September 26, 2012, 10:38:44 PM »

Danny ‏@recordsANDradio
Jayson Werth moonwalks to 1st and shows the crowd his W-2! #Nats

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One of the most satisfying at bats in the history of ever - Well Done Jayson   :clap:

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Re: Plaudits for Werth
« Reply #96: September 26, 2012, 10:39:54 PM »
So, so good. Have to agree, so satisfactory. Gonna put the Nats in the news (at least sports news) tomorrow.

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Re: Plaudits for Werth
« Reply #97: September 26, 2012, 10:44:50 PM »
Jayson Werth's middle finger could be clearly seen by the entire audience at Citizens Bank Park.  That hit single-handedly makes the contract worth it.  $126 million is a bargain to see those awful phans in their philthy park anguish like that.

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Re: Plaudits for Werth
« Reply #98: September 26, 2012, 10:49:39 PM »
  That hit single-handedly makes the contract worth it. 

Total fail.


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Re: Plaudits for Werth
« Reply #99: September 26, 2012, 11:03:16 PM »
WERTHQUAKE!!! Excellent in the 9th today.