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Re: Follow the Prospects: Nathan Karns, RHP
« Reply #75: August 14, 2012, 12:34:01 AM »
Edit, that line was wrong. Nats_prospects makes lots of mistakes.

6 IP 8 H 3 ER 2 BB 10 K. ERA up to 2.26.

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Nathan Karns, RHP
« Reply #76: August 14, 2012, 01:17:57 AM »
I do enjoy reading about a guy that maybe showed a little promise in 2005 and continues to maybe do.so

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Nathan Karns, RHP
« Reply #77: September 06, 2012, 05:53:09 PM »
sadly, karns will likely never see much time in Washington as a starter and won't have a whole lot of trade value given his age and that the highest level he has pitched at is High A.  He has the stuff to be a late inning reliever from what I've read though.

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Nathan Karns, RHP
« Reply #78: September 06, 2012, 10:10:15 PM »
sadly, karns will likely never see much time in Washington as a starter and won't have a whole lot of trade value given his age and that the highest level he has pitched at is High A.  He has the stuff to be a late inning reliever from what I've read though.

There's still a lot for him to prove, but that's a bit premature. I'm not predicting him to be a rotation mainstay over the likes of Meyer or Solis, but you never know. With his age, early success at Harrisburg could get him the first chance at a promotion, if need be. You never know with injuries either.

Good depth, and time will tell. But I agree that his floor could be as a power reliever, which is fine by me.

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Nathan Karns, RHP
« Reply #79: February 05, 2013, 01:48:34 PM »
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A 12th-round pick in 2009 out of Texas Tech, Karns threw just 55 minor-league innings before 2012 due to a major shoulder injury he suffered in 2010, but exploded this year in a rare fit of good health.

Karns was 93-97 as a starter with a yellow hammer of a curveball at 80-85 that he threw for more and more strikes as the season went on, meaning he could have two pitches that grade out at 70 on the 20-80 scale. He barely uses his changeup, but it's no worse than fringy and can play up because hitters are busy worrying about 96 going right by them.

There's some effort in his delivery, mostly as his arm lags slightly behind his front leg, yet he does have the size and lower-body strength to continue to generate that velocity in a starter's role. If his shoulder holds up -- a big if -- he's got front-line starter potential.

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Nathan Karns, RHP
« Reply #80: February 05, 2013, 06:02:04 PM »
Strasburg, Gio, J-Zimm, Gio 2.0, Cole, Karns, the aces never end!

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Nathan Karns, RHP
« Reply #81: February 06, 2013, 11:35:48 AM »
Surprised he made the list at his advanced age.

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Nathan Karns, RHP
« Reply #82: February 26, 2013, 11:29:30 AM »
Karns looked really good yesterday.  Really good fastball.  Really pounded the strike zone and was not wild at all.  I remember his last pitch was a breaking ball - it looked like a slider but may have been a curve.  Whatever it was, it had good break and had enough velocity that I thought it was a slider.

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Nathan Karns, RHP
« Reply #83: February 26, 2013, 12:55:41 PM »
Strasburg, Gio, J-Zimm, Gio 2.0, Cole, Karns, the aces never end!
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Re: Follow the Prospects: Nathan Karns, RHP
« Reply #84: February 26, 2013, 11:27:32 PM »
Sorry the quality isn't better. But here's Karn's outing pitch by pitch for those who couldn't see it. It's better than nothing. The uploader's MLB.tv won't play archives in HD for some reason. Regular games fine, but not archives. At least that's what he told me ;)
Nathan Karns 2/24/12

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Nathan Karns, RHP
« Reply #85: February 27, 2013, 08:38:29 AM »
Surprised he made the list at his advanced age.
I think that, as a college kid who missed his first two seasons in pro ball due to injury, people are giving him a bit of a mulligan, especially after dominating at lower levels during a restricter plate year.  It was his first season of full season ball in the organization. He'll need to show some dominance at AA and maybe make the majors by September.  He's the kind of arm prospect raters don't want to look overlook and have him fly through the organization now that he's healthy.

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Nathan Karns, RHP
« Reply #86: February 27, 2013, 11:46:14 AM »
Mostly fastballs.  A handful of sliders/curveballs.  Don't know what it is.  Sort of in between, I guess.  Didn't see a changeup.

Seems like a late-inning reliever's arsenal more than a starter's. 

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Nathan Karns, RHP
« Reply #87: March 13, 2013, 04:50:02 PM »
Updated for WNFF, BA, and Fangraphs prospect rankings for the Nats.  Did he make anyone's top 100 for all of baseball?

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Nathan Karns, RHP
« Reply #88: March 13, 2013, 05:16:44 PM »
Updated for WNFF, BA, and Fangraphs prospect rankings for the Nats.  Did he make anyone's top 100 for all of baseball?

Keith Law ranked him at 99.

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Nathan Karns, RHP
« Reply #89: March 14, 2013, 08:38:02 AM »
updated first post for KLaw's overall ranking and Sickels Nats system rating (#6, B-).

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6) Nate Karns, RHP, Grade B-: Recovered from labrum surgery to dominate A-ball with 92-96 MPH sinker and nasty curveball. Projects as a number three starter if his changeup improves, a power closer if it doesn't.

http://www.minorleagueball.com/2012/12/27/3809440/washington-nationals-top-20-prospects-for-2013

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Nathan Karns, RHP
« Reply #90: April 13, 2013, 11:13:47 PM »
good start today:

5IP 3H 0R 0ER 1BB 7K

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Nathan Karns, RHP
« Reply #91: April 14, 2013, 12:45:27 AM »
Call him up. Maybe he can close.

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Nathan Karns, RHP
« Reply #92: April 20, 2013, 08:02:51 PM »
Karns outing today:
7IP (CG) 2 H 1 ER 13 K 1 BB
The two hits were doubles in the first, and that's it. 13 K is a career high for him.

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Nathan Karns, RHP
« Reply #93: April 20, 2013, 08:05:57 PM »
Call him up

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Nathan Karns, RHP
« Reply #94: April 20, 2013, 08:52:31 PM »
holy crap. that's impressive.

His last two starts have been dynamite. 21 Ks and 1 ER in 12 IP

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Nathan Karns, RHP
« Reply #95: April 20, 2013, 09:01:56 PM »
Call him up. Maybe he can close.

Maybe he can start on Monday.

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Nathan Karns, RHP
« Reply #96: April 20, 2013, 09:19:00 PM »
Stud.

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Nathan Karns, RHP
« Reply #97: May 02, 2013, 12:57:34 PM »
6.2 IP 3 H ER 4 BB 5 K today.

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Nathan Karns, RHP
« Reply #98: May 02, 2013, 01:06:02 PM »
6.2 IP 3 H ER 4 BB 5 K today.

of course i can't watch b/c NB doesn't have MILB.TV for some reason :(

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Nathan Karns, RHP
« Reply #99: May 02, 2013, 02:56:00 PM »
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http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=20009

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5. Nate Karns
Position: RHP
DOB: 11/25/1987
Height/Weight: 6’5’’ 230 lbs.
Bats/Throws: R/R
Drafted/Acquired: 12th round, 2009 draft, Texas Tech University (Lubbock, TX)
2012 Stats: 2.03 ERA (44.1 IP, 23 H, 61 K, 21 BB) at Low-A Hagerstown; 2.26 ERA
 (71.2 IP, 47 H, 87 K, 26 BB) at High-A Potomac
The Tools: 6+ FB; 6+ CB;
 
What Happened in 2012: Injuries had sapped Karns’ progress leading up to the 2012 season, but a lucky bout with health propelled the big righty up prospect lists with a very strong two-level performance.
 
Strengths: Tall, physical pitcher; creates good angle to the plate and throws downhill; fastball works in the 92-95 range; touches higher; good weight; can pound low zone; curveball is true plus pitch; might project even higher; heavy vertical action; true bat-missing weapon; hard to adjust the bat to the plane; attacks and competes.
 
Weaknesses: He’s 25 years old; behind developmental curve; can repeat, but delivery has some effort; mostly a two-pitch type; changeup gets over, but is below average at present; can throw strikes, but overall command is loose.
 
Overall Future Potential: High 5; no. 3 starter
 
Explanation of Risk: High risk; has yet to pitch in Double-A; shoulder injury on resume.
 
Fantasy Future: Mature body and two plus (to plus-plus) pitches in arsenal; if he can stay healthy, should be able to chew innings and miss bats; could end up in relief if changeup plays down or command regresses.
 
The Year Ahead: Health will be the biggest factor for Karns, but if he can stay on the mound, he be able to perform at a high level in Double-A. The fastball/curve combo is very legit, with several sources putting high sixes on the offerings. The delivery works, although he does show some effort and the injury history to the shoulder will keep red flags flying for a long time. If the changeup can play as an average pitch and he can continue to miss bats with the power fastball/curve, he won’t be long for the minors. Good arm.