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Non-Nats Trade watch
« Topic Start: June 21, 2012, 08:43:38 AM »
Thread for discussion of non-Nat trade rumors.

Youkilis might be one of the big names to move quickly because the Red Sox need to straighten out outfield and corner infield playing time among Middlebrooks, Gonzalez, Ross, Kalish, Nava, and the DL OFs when they return (Pods, Ells, Crawford, Sweeney).  DH is not an option.  Looks like they will eat a good chunk of the remaining $7MM committed to him (1/2 this year plus the buyout).  If healthy, his option for next year is attractive.

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These are the teams in play for Youkilis at the moment:

■Dodgers: They need a productive corner infielder, and Youkilis has always been a favorite of manager Don Mattingly, who admires his plate discipline. The Dodgers have been scouting Youkilis at Fenway this week. A reported deal for James Loney would not be Boston’s cup of tea.

■Indians: Like many teams, they could use a righthanded bat at a corner, and are very much involved in talks with the Red Sox.

■Pirates: They need to bolster their offense, because they feel their pitching is good enough to win the NL Central. Getting Youkilis would add a very disciplined hitter to that lineup.

■Diamondbacks: They have had interest in Youkilis for some time, but they declined when the Red Sox asked for outfielder Gerardo Parra. The talks do not appear to be dead, according to a major league source.

■White Sox: They could use a third baseman, but with John Danks going down with an injury, they are more likely to pursue pitching help.

■Phillies. The Philadelphia people deny they are looking at Youkilis, but they had two scouts at Fenway. The Phillies are still awaiting the return of Ryan Howard and Chase Utley.

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Re: Non-Nats Trade watch
« Reply #1: June 21, 2012, 08:56:45 AM »
Youkilis is hitting like hot garbage right now. Unless he turns it around, Boston won't be able to get anything for him.

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Re: Non-Nats Trade watch
« Reply #2: June 21, 2012, 11:23:06 AM »
Change thread title to red sox trade watch. Why pretend otherwise?  :stir:

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Re: Non-Nats Trade watch
« Reply #3: June 21, 2012, 11:23:56 AM »
Naw, if there is a good piece on Wandy, put it here, too.

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Re: Non-Nats Trade watch
« Reply #4: June 21, 2012, 11:29:36 AM »
Whoever trades for Youkilis has to be willing to take the bag with the douche.

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« Reply #5: June 21, 2012, 12:16:47 PM »
Whoever trades for Youkilis has to be willing to take the bag with the douche.

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Re: Non-Nats Trade watch
« Reply #6: June 21, 2012, 12:17:28 PM »
:lmao: :lmao:

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« Reply #7: June 21, 2012, 03:16:38 PM »
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

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« Reply #8: June 22, 2012, 10:57:28 AM »
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Re: Non-Nats Trade watch
« Reply #9: June 23, 2012, 02:10:30 PM »
C-C-C-C-C-OMBO BREAKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://espn.go.com/boston/mlb/story/_/id/8086521/sources-potential-deal-boston-red-sox-3b-kevin-youkilis-nearing

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BOSTON -- A trade of Boston Red Sox infielder Kevin Youkilis could happen at any time now, two officials involved in trade talks told ESPN The Magazine's Buster Olney. On Friday night, the Chicago White Sox were perceived to be one of the frontrunners.

The Red Sox have talked with the Los Angeles Dodgers, Cleveland Indians, Atlanta Braves and Arizona Diamondbacks about Youkilis, among other teams. One executive involved indicated on Friday night the White Sox were thought to be competing with an NL team, and the Red Sox were going through the process of trying to nudge offers one last time.

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Arizona is said to be out of the running. The Braves reportedly have scouted Youkilis repeatedly in the past week.

Red Sox manager Bobby Valentine said he talked with Youkilis on Friday about decreased playing time. Youkilis, while not happy about it, understood Valentine's decision.

"He doesn't necessarily totally agree with it and doesn't wake up in the morning and hope that's the case, but I think the professional person that Kevin is, he understands it," Valentine said. "Yes, I think he's fine."

For the first time since coming off the disabled list on May 22, Youkilis is out of the starting lineup for two consecutive games. The fact that it comes in the wake of a monster performance by fellow third baseman Will Middlebrooks on Thursday night begs the question: Has there been a concrete shift at third base from the veteran Youkilis to the rookie Middlebrooks?

For Friday night's series opener against Atlanta, Valentine said he's simply going with the guy who is swinging a good bat.

"Today, I'm riding the hot hand," Valentine said. "Tomorrow might not be the case. I always reserve the right to change my mind."

But Valentine did say he had a discussion with Youkilis about the situation and expects his veteran to adjust to any part-time role that emerges.

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Middlebrooks hammered a game-tying two-run homer in the bottom of the eighth inning Thursday, keying a comeback victory for the Sox over Miami. He had four RBIs in the game and has 31 in just 38 games since being promoted to Boston. That represents the most RBIs by a Red Sox player in 38 games since Walt Dropo in 1949-50.

Meanwhile, Youkilis is hitting only .174 (8 for 46) with no home runs and 10 strikeouts in June during which he has been surrounded by trade rumors. For several days, Valentine was able to appease the hot-hitting rookie and the struggling vet, but that was because of a shortage of healthy outfielders, which necessitated Adrian Gonzalez's move to right field and enabled Youkilis to play first base. With Cody Ross back and Daniel Nava and Ryan Kalish contributing, Gonzalez can slide back to first, where he has won three Gold Gloves.

Valentine hinted the more stable outfield gives him more reason to keep Gonzalez planted at first, which would necessitate a daily decision regarding Youkilis and Middlebrooks.

"We'll take it day by day, but if I had my druthers, he'd stay at first," Valentine said of Gonzalez. "The reason he didn't was because of necessity."

That necessity is not there right now, and with Carl Crawford and Jacoby Ellsbury taking steps toward an eventual return, the Sox may actually have a surplus of outfielders at some point. Right now they have a surplus of third basemen, which will create a daily lineup drama until the situation changes.



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Re: Non-Nats Trade watch
« Reply #10: June 23, 2012, 10:00:52 PM »
youkilis nagging to the boston media today about playing time, not knowing his situation, yada yada yada ... what a tool.

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Re: Non-Nats Trade watch
« Reply #11: June 24, 2012, 01:11:03 PM »
Sorry - this is not meant to be all youkilis all the time.  Any good Wandy speculation for destinations?   Is there talk in philly about Victorino being moved?  Links people, links!

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« Reply #12: June 24, 2012, 01:30:09 PM »
This must be a round about way to ask if Rodriguez and Victorino are possible acquisitions for the sawks.  :?

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« Reply #13: June 24, 2012, 04:55:34 PM »
Kevin Youkilis has been traded to the White Sox, Rob Bradford of WEEI reports. (Sun Jun 24)

Spin: No word yet on who the White Sox will send back, but Zach Stewart has been scratched from his start Sunday night in Triple-A. Youkilis would assume the third base role in the South Side from Orlando Hudson should this trade go through.


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Re: Non-Nats Trade watch
« Reply #14: June 24, 2012, 05:23:59 PM »
I just heard Hawk Harrelson say the trade was made and an announcement will be made after the White Sox game which is still going on.

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Re: Non-Nats Trade watch
« Reply #15: June 24, 2012, 05:26:34 PM »
Probably a good trade for both teams.

Youk, or what's left of him won't have a ton of pressure to succeed in a solid White Sox lineup. Sox no longer have to worry about him.

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« Reply #16: June 24, 2012, 06:03:53 PM »
Also Lillibridge going to Red Sox, per Boston.com.

Deal works for both teams.  Pitching depth and a multipositional backup in case Pedroia's hand is a problem.  Youk is an upgrade at 3d even if he's taken a step back, and if he gets going that gives  them incredible OBP and OPS from the corner IF / DH slots.  Want to talk about some guys who work counts?  Him and Dunn in the same line up?  Hope you empty your bladder before they come up in an inning.

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« Reply #17: June 24, 2012, 07:05:40 PM »
Also Lillibridge going to Red Sox, per Boston.com.

Deal works for both teams.  Pitching depth and a multipositional backup in case Pedroia's hand is a problem.  Youk is an upgrade at 3d even if he's taken a step back, and if he gets going that gives  them incredible OBP and OPS from the corner IF / DH slots.  Want to talk about some guys who work counts?  Him and Dunn in the same line up?  Hope you empty your bladder before they come up in an inning.



Lillibridge has been all over the place. Braves system, Pirates, Sox, Sox. Did I miss anywhere?

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« Reply #19: June 24, 2012, 09:32:25 PM »
He's also played every position execpt catcher

http://m.bbref.com/m?p=XXplayersXXlXXlillibr01-field.shtml&t=all_standard_fielding


so if rick santorum was on this forum he'd blast Lillibridge for going so many ways?

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« Reply #20: June 25, 2012, 11:11:07 AM »
Probably a good trade for both teams.

Youk, or what's left of him won't have a ton of pressure to succeed in a solid White Sox lineup. Sox no longer have to worry about him.

I don't think this trade is as big a deal as the Chicago media and my Sox fan buddies are making it out to be.  As you say, Youkilis is over the hill.  A change of scenery and some guaranteed playing time might help him improve.  But I certainly wouldn't count on Youk as the "missing piece."  What the Sox sent to the Sawks turns out to be next to nothing -- a journeyman pitcher with a penchant for giving up home runs and a utility player who can't hit his weight.  If not a good deal for both teams, at least one that shouldn't be a net negative. 

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« Reply #21: June 26, 2012, 09:04:50 AM »
Check out the reaction here to the #1 CWS fan's comment on the trade.
http://www.boston.com/sports/blogs/thebuzz/2012/06/obama_thanks_bo.html?comments=all

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« Reply #22: June 26, 2012, 01:31:37 PM »
You mean the guy that couldn't name a single Sox player?

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« Reply #23: June 26, 2012, 01:33:23 PM »
Damnit and I was just beginning to start to like the White Sox.  Now I can't. 

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« Reply #24: June 27, 2012, 09:00:20 AM »
Check out the reaction here to the #1 CWS fan's comment on the trade.
http://www.boston.com/sports/blogs/thebuzz/2012/06/obama_thanks_bo.html?comments=all


Obama is a White Sox poser.  He grew up pulling for the A's.