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Offline GOON

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Re: What's wrong with Ryan Zimmerman?
« Reply #175: June 17, 2012, 11:49:05 AM »
Because players never come back from injuries and play at a high level again, nope.

David Wright? A complete bum still, isn't even batting .400
Johan Santana? That no-hitter shouldn't have counted.
Jake Peavy? He's just lucky I suppose.
Josh Hamilton? Probably won't even break Bonds' record.

These are just players off the top of my head from this season alone. They all still suck coming back from injuries. I'm sure you can find more evidence by looking more thoroughly at this and other seasons.

Grady Sizemore?
Travis Hafner?
Justin Morneau?
Mark Prior?

These four are players whose careers have been either A) Ruined due to injury or B) Have never returned to the level they were before the injuries started happening.  Plus, those guys you mentioned took years to return to what they were before injury.  We're paying $100 million to a guy who might not never return to the same level he once played at and even if he does return to that form, it might take years. 

Offline nobleisthyname

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Re: What's wrong with Ryan Zimmerman?
« Reply #176: June 17, 2012, 12:17:03 PM »
Grady Sizemore?
Travis Hafner?
Justin Morneau?
Mark Prior?

These four are players whose careers have been either A) Ruined due to injury or B) Have never returned to the level they were before the injuries started happening.  Plus, those guys you mentioned took years to return to what they were before injury.  We're paying $100 million to a guy who might not never return to the same level he once played at and even if he does return to that form, it might take years.

Quite true. But you seem to be operating under the assumption that Zimmerman turning into a Grady Sizemore as absolute fact. Unless you have some sort of crystal ball I have to say you are being irrationally and unreasonably pessimistic. While there are most definitely players who are never the same after an injury, the majority of players (especially position players) are able to return quite effectively.

Besides, most of the names mentioned so far (by you and me) had much more serious and debilitating injuries than anything Zimmerman has experienced. And he is much younger than most of them still.

Offline HalfSmokes

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Re: What's wrong with Ryan Zimmerman?
« Reply #177: June 17, 2012, 12:20:05 PM »
You mean there are guys who haven't recovered from injury :shock: do you realize we also extended Gio and pitchers often get injured- better just try to go year to year with the rest of the staff

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Re: What's wrong with Ryan Zimmerman?
« Reply #178: June 17, 2012, 12:21:44 PM »
Mark Prior?

Oh dear gods. I see the paralell with Ryan Zimmerman. We are doomed. His pitching career is over. :panic:

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Re: What's wrong with Ryan Zimmerman?
« Reply #179: June 17, 2012, 12:42:31 PM »
We saw the team last year when Zim got hurt. It was painful. I think he's playing with pain now, but playing because now, after all those all-time worst teams, the Nats are contending. Leading the NL East.

I'd like to see them put Lombo at 3B and Tyler Moore in LF for about a week, using RZim only to PH.

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Re: What's wrong with Ryan Zimmerman?
« Reply #180: June 17, 2012, 12:42:41 PM »
:lmao: at Mark Prior. What a knuckle-dragger. Please stop quoting him.

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Re: What's wrong with Ryan Zimmerman?
« Reply #181: June 17, 2012, 12:43:15 PM »
Oh dear gods. I see the paralell with Ryan Zimmerman. We are doomed. His pitching career is over. :panic:

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Re: What's wrong with Ryan Zimmerman?
« Reply #182: June 17, 2012, 01:13:59 PM »
We saw the team last year when Zim got hurt. It was painful. I think he's playing with pain now, but playing because now, after all those all-time worst teams, the Nats are contending. Leading the NL East.

I'd like to see them put Lombo at 3B and Tyler Moore in LF for about a week, using RZim only to PH.

Hairston was awesome last year playing in place of Zim.  If Tracy were still here, he would have been a decent short-term replacement.  As it stands now, I wouldn't mind seeing the lineup you suggest.

Offline GOON

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Re: What's wrong with Ryan Zimmerman?
« Reply #183: June 17, 2012, 01:17:20 PM »
Oh dear gods. I see the paralell with Ryan Zimmerman. We are doomed. His pitching career is over. :panic:

Missing my point entirely. An example of a player who was great until injuries happened.

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Re: What's wrong with Ryan Zimmerman?
« Reply #184: June 17, 2012, 01:49:09 PM »
Sorry GOON but I suspect it is going to take someone with advanced degrees in otolarygology and proctology to make sense of those last few posts. ;)   

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Re: What's wrong with Ryan Zimmerman?
« Reply #185: June 17, 2012, 02:02:47 PM »
Yankees would dominate us in the Series. We're at home and bending over.

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Re: What's wrong with Ryan Zimmerman?
« Reply #186: June 17, 2012, 03:52:48 PM »
Does Ryan Zimmerman even hit homers in batting practice?  Has anyone seen him in BP recently?

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Re: What's wrong with Ryan Zimmerman?
« Reply #187: June 17, 2012, 05:36:12 PM »
Carrying this over from the GDT, Davey mentioned he's concerned about Zimmerman at the very beginning of the post game presser.

Offline ZIM4MVP

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Re: What's wrong with Ryan Zimmerman?
« Reply #188: June 17, 2012, 05:42:59 PM »
too busy planning a wedding.  Needs to be DFA as a wake up call

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Re: What's wrong with Ryan Zimmerman?
« Reply #189: June 17, 2012, 06:02:42 PM »
Ryan Zimmerman has options...just sayin'

Offline spidernat

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Re: What's wrong with Ryan Zimmerman?
« Reply #190: June 17, 2012, 06:20:37 PM »
^  He'd have to give consent or clear waivers for that to happen.

Offline Slateman

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Re: What's wrong with Ryan Zimmerman?
« Reply #191: June 17, 2012, 06:32:28 PM »
We don't need to send him down, or DFA. Or even trade.

It's real simple

DL or moved down in the order. His defense is more than good enough to justify him hitting in the 6/7/8 spot. Either put him on the DL or move him down

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Re: What's wrong with Ryan Zimmerman?
« Reply #192: June 17, 2012, 06:41:03 PM »
Dude isn't going anywhere and they're not moving him in the order.   Just really hope that this is the result of him being injured and not the new normal.

Offline Slateman

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Re: What's wrong with Ryan Zimmerman?
« Reply #193: June 17, 2012, 06:45:09 PM »
Dude isn't going anywhere and they're not moving him in the order.   Just really hope that this is the result of him being injured and not the new normal.

Then we're effectively punting this season, because it's obvious that Zimmerman won't let himself get taken out of the lineup unless the injury gets worse.

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Re: What's wrong with Ryan Zimmerman?
« Reply #194: June 17, 2012, 06:51:02 PM »
lol

Offline MorseTheHorse

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Re: What's wrong with Ryan Zimmerman?
« Reply #195: June 17, 2012, 07:01:28 PM »
Then we're effectively punting this season, because it's obvious that Zimmerman won't let himself get taken out of the lineup unless the injury gets worse.

Who wants to start the "What's wrong with Slateman" thread? 

Offline Mr Clean

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Re: What's wrong with Ryan Zimmerman?
« Reply #196: June 17, 2012, 07:02:36 PM »
Missing my point entirely. An example of a player who was great until injuries happened.
Interesting. There's a guy named McPoop who harps on Zimmerman constantly.


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Re: What's wrong with Ryan Zimmerman?
« Reply #197: June 17, 2012, 07:45:20 PM »
So who bats third?  Desmond?

Offline Slateman

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Re: What's wrong with Ryan Zimmerman?
« Reply #198: June 17, 2012, 08:11:28 PM »
So who bats third?  Desmond?

Sure. He's hitting better than Zimmerman.

Offline zoom

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Re: What's wrong with Ryan Zimmerman?
« Reply #199: June 17, 2012, 08:19:07 PM »
if we were to give Zim a couple of days off, who would play 3rd?  Lombo?