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Offline PowerBoater69

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Re: What's wrong with Ryan Zimmerman?
« Reply #150: June 16, 2012, 08:57:27 AM »
Zimmerman needs to be send to the minors until further notice, dude is trash right now and he's not helping the team at all. If his D was good then maybe there'd be a point, but suck suck suck is his name. Like I said awhile back, DO NOT RE-SIGN THIS MAN. This is why I said it. Such a slob.

It sure would be nice to know what kind of trade package we could have received rather than tying up a ton of money over the next ten years.

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Re: What's wrong with Ryan Zimmerman?
« Reply #151: June 16, 2012, 09:20:36 AM »
Zim will be fine.  He's still one of the 5 best 3b's in the game.

Remember - if it wasn't so windy in Chicago on opening day, he'd have 2 more homers.   :mg:

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Re: What's wrong with Ryan Zimmerman?
« Reply #152: June 16, 2012, 09:37:58 AM »
He's washed up and will never be the same player again.  The contract extension Rizzo gave him was a huge mistake.

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« Reply #153: June 16, 2012, 09:42:36 AM »
He's washed up and will never be the same player again.  The contract extension Rizzo gave him was a huge mistake.
There aren't a whole lot of players who are "washed up" at twenty-seven, particularly players as good as Zimm's been.

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« Reply #154: June 16, 2012, 09:46:51 AM »
There aren't a whole lot of players who are "washed up" at twenty-seven, particularly players as good as Zimm's been.

There aren't a lot of players who have been as injury prone as Zimm has been either at the age of 27.

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Re: What's wrong with Ryan Zimmerman?
« Reply #155: June 16, 2012, 09:54:00 AM »
He's washed up and will never be the same player again.  The contract extension Rizzo gave him was a huge mistake.

A little prone to hyperbole, are we?

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Re: What's wrong with Ryan Zimmerman?
« Reply #156: June 16, 2012, 10:39:08 AM »
A little prone to hyperbole, are we?

Of course not, two and a half months is more than enough time to judge a ten year contract  :roll: If Zimmerman comes back healthy and puts together a bunch of 5+ WAR seasons it doesn't matter. This contract is an absolute failure because for two and a half months he struggled.

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Re: What's wrong with Ryan Zimmerman?
« Reply #157: June 16, 2012, 11:50:03 AM »
He's washed up and will never be the same player again.

This is sarcasm or a joke, right? While the contract extension could turn out to be a mistake, I cannot imagine anyone writing off Zimmerman.


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Re: What's wrong with Ryan Zimmerman?
« Reply #158: June 16, 2012, 12:18:26 PM »
I continue to suspect that Zim has a sore shoulder and he wants to play anyway.

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Re: What's wrong with Ryan Zimmerman?
« Reply #159: June 16, 2012, 12:22:19 PM »
This is sarcasm or a joke, right? While the contract extension could turn out to be a mistake, I cannot imagine anyone writing off Zimmerman.



Agree.

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Re: What's wrong with Ryan Zimmerman?
« Reply #160: June 16, 2012, 05:17:40 PM »
Interesting that it's newer members that are freaking out about Zim.

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Re: What's wrong with Ryan Zimmerman?
« Reply #161: June 16, 2012, 05:27:38 PM »
I continue to suspect that Zim has a sore shoulder and he wants to play anyway.
This. And I suspect that its more than sore.

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Re: What's wrong with Ryan Zimmerman?
« Reply #162: June 16, 2012, 07:15:16 PM »
Which would be too bad, but may be true.

 I'll bet he's 15-20 pounds heavier than he was in his rookie season (he sure looked it in that flashback to his 2006 era walk-off today). I don't think he needs the extra beef. Baseball players aren't linebackers.

This. And I suspect that its more than sore.



Offline rileyn

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Re: What's wrong with Ryan Zimmerman?
« Reply #163: June 17, 2012, 08:51:08 AM »
Last 600 ABs:

.260 BA
.400 SLG
15 HR
71 RBI
31 doubles
2 triples
5 stolen bases
61 BB
110 K's

Not hyperbole.  Just facts.  What kind of contract would you offer this player?  Should this player be penciled in as the #3 hitter for eternity?

Offline nobleisthyname

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Re: What's wrong with Ryan Zimmerman?
« Reply #164: June 17, 2012, 10:15:27 AM »
Last 600 ABs:

.260 BA
.400 SLG
15 HR
71 RBI
31 doubles
2 triples
5 stolen bases
61 BB
110 K's

Not hyperbole.  Just facts.  What kind of contract would you offer this player?  Should this player be penciled in as the #3 hitter for eternity?

Of course not. But you're delusional if you think those numbers represent the type of player he is at the plate.

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Re: What's wrong with Ryan Zimmerman?
« Reply #165: June 17, 2012, 10:39:59 AM »
Of course not. But you're delusional if you think those numbers represent the type of player he is at the plate.

What do those numbers represent then?  An extremely long slump?  People have got to realize that the Ryan Zimmerman of 2009 is never coming back.  He is going to be a .240-.260 hitter with over 100 K's and 15-20 home runs.  We're paying $100 million for that production. 

Will he have flashes of greatness?  Of course he will.  Every athlete that was once elite does and shows signs of their old selves.  Will it be permanent?  No.

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Re: What's wrong with Ryan Zimmerman?
« Reply #166: June 17, 2012, 10:41:40 AM »
What do those numbers represent then?  An extremely long slump?  People have got to realize that the Ryan Zimmerman of 2009 is never coming back.  He is going to be a .240-.260 hitter with over 100 K's and 15-20 home runs.  We're paying $100 million for that production. 

Will he have flashes of greatness?  Of course he will.  Every athlete that was once elite does and shows signs of their old selves.  Will it be permanent?  No.

Why is the Zimm of 2009 and prior never coming back? He's only 27 for God's sake.

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Re: What's wrong with Ryan Zimmerman?
« Reply #167: June 17, 2012, 10:44:13 AM »
Why is the Zimm of 2009 and prior never coming back? He's only 27 for God's sake.

For one, he's always injured and it's hard to return to form when you're on the DL every two months.  Plus, I feel injuries have taken the toll on the guy.  I mean, he's not Cal Ripken Jr. out there.  The dude has been made of glass the last three years. 

Offline nobleisthyname

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Re: What's wrong with Ryan Zimmerman?
« Reply #168: June 17, 2012, 10:51:06 AM »
Because players never come back from injuries and play at a high level again, nope.

David Wright? A complete bum still, isn't even batting .400
Johan Santana? That no-hitter shouldn't have counted.
Jake Peavy? He's just lucky I suppose.
Josh Hamilton? Probably won't even break Bonds' record.

These are just players off the top of my head from this season alone. They all still suck coming back from injuries. I'm sure you can find more evidence by looking more thoroughly at this and other seasons.

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Re: What's wrong with Ryan Zimmerman?
« Reply #169: June 17, 2012, 10:55:25 AM »
Entering last afternoon's game, Ryan Zimmerman had 0.3 fWAR on the season.  Today he has 0.2 fWAR for the year.

Our three hole hitter is performing worse than a AAAA guy.  Drop him in the order.

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Re: What's wrong with Ryan Zimmerman?
« Reply #171: June 17, 2012, 11:01:57 AM »
i hate this thread.

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Re: What's wrong with Ryan Zimmerman?
« Reply #172: June 17, 2012, 11:15:11 AM »
I think some of these new users are just troll accounts set up by old timers who are bored.

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Re: What's wrong with Ryan Zimmerman?
« Reply #173: June 17, 2012, 11:15:32 AM »
They're all MDS.

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Re: What's wrong with Ryan Zimmerman?
« Reply #174: June 17, 2012, 11:22:45 AM »
They're all MDS.

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