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Offline HalfSmokes

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Re: Future of big name Nats
« Reply #125: May 29, 2012, 12:54:12 AM »
Arod's contract destroyed the rangers for years - most huge contracts don't work out, especially record setting ones. As far as the owners being rich, so what? How many owners operate their teams at a loss because they're rich?

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Re: Future of big name Nats
« Reply #126: May 29, 2012, 06:24:56 AM »
I think that guys may actually sign away negotiating rights solely to Boras. As in, they cannot legally sign a deal without his ok. This is pure conjecture.

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« Reply #127: May 29, 2012, 08:53:18 AM »
I doubt it, considering what Weaver did.

Edit: Actually, I thought Weaver went behind Boras' back. It sounds like Boras was in the loop and just disagreed. I love this quote from Weaver:

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"How much more do you need?" Weaver asked about his deal. "Could have got more, whatever. Who cares?"

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Re: Future of big name Nats
« Reply #128: May 29, 2012, 08:55:51 AM »
I think that guys may actually sign away negotiating rights solely to Boras. As in, they cannot legally sign a deal without his ok. This is pure conjecture.

I don't think that is legally possible, but I bet they verbally tell Boras that he handles the negotiations then Boras tells the clients to shut up to the team and media.

Offline MarquisDeSade

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« Reply #129: May 29, 2012, 08:56:07 AM »
Are there people seriously concerned about something that may or may not happen five years from now?  Worrying about it isn't going to change anything - enjoy the kid while you can, nothing lasts forever.

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« Reply #130: May 29, 2012, 08:56:57 AM »
Are there people seriously concerned about something that may or may not happen five years from now?  Worrying about it isn't going to change anything - enjoy the kid while you can, nothing lasts forever.

but mancrush.

Offline BH34Natural

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« Reply #131: May 29, 2012, 08:59:48 AM »
Are there people seriously concerned about something that may or may not happen five years from now? 

In a word, yes.

We're just talking baseball.

Offline MarquisDeSade

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« Reply #132: May 29, 2012, 09:04:04 AM »
Seems like a lot of handwringing over nothing.  Kid is a stud - go to ever game you can and enjoy what you see.

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Re: Future of big name Nats
« Reply #133: May 29, 2012, 09:13:15 AM »
Yeah.. really hope this topic isn't bumped for the next six years. Just let it go.

Offline spidernat

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Re: Future of big name Nats
« Reply #134: May 29, 2012, 09:48:48 AM »
I think that guys may actually sign away negotiating rights solely to Boras. As in, they cannot legally sign a deal without his ok. This is pure conjecture.

You've probably been in the room during negotiations.

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Re: Future of big name Nats
« Reply #135: May 29, 2012, 11:12:25 AM »
Yeah.. really hope this topic isn't bumped for the next six years. Just let it go.

It wont be. It's just an initial discussion now that it seems aparent and clear that Harper will be baseball's best young player soon.

Offline captkirk42

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Re: Future of big name Nats
« Reply #136: May 29, 2012, 11:26:46 AM »
Personally I hope he has an excellent HOF type career and I hope that most if not all of it is with the Nats. I am concerned though that he will peak too soon in his career with this premmie rookie season. But I am glad he is on the team. Personally I would have preferred to have had him be a September call up, but our boys getting all beat up early in the year sort of dictated his early arrival.


Offline BH34Natural

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« Reply #137: May 29, 2012, 12:11:33 PM »
He has provided a spark. I mean you can just see the roster has taken on his personality. Seeing a young kid hustle like that as a vet you better be playing hard

Offline HalfSmokes

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Re: Future of big name Nats
« Reply #138: May 29, 2012, 12:32:07 PM »
yea, I'm sure seeing harper is the motivating factor for guys trying to earn their next contract

Offline Smithian

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Re: Future of big name Nats
« Reply #139: May 29, 2012, 12:37:11 PM »
I think this should be locked until 18-24 months from now. Maybe 36.

No need to start biting our finger nails in 2012.

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Re: Future of big name Nats
« Reply #140: May 29, 2012, 12:41:39 PM »
I think this should be locked until 18-24 months from now. Maybe 36.

No need to start biting our finger nails in 2012.

is anyone biting nails? just because people find aspects other than slobbering over everything the team does interesting, doesn't mean you have to give a damn- just ignore the thread if it bothers you

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« Reply #141: May 29, 2012, 12:43:21 PM »
is anyone biting nails? just because people find aspects other than slobbering over everything the team does interesting, doesn't mean you have to give a damn- just ignore the thread if it bothers you
Yes.... The OP. BH34 has bumped this thread a couple times.

And I'm not bothered, I just find it pointless.


Offline HalfSmokes

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« Reply #142: May 29, 2012, 12:46:29 PM »
I find it interesting, also, if I'm the team, now is the time I take him a large offer- he started with $10 million (including salary through 2015), half to the tax man, a penchant for nice cars, a home for mom and dad, a few vacations... now might be the time to come in an offer him a nice extension 

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Re: Future of big name Nats
« Reply #143: May 29, 2012, 12:50:32 PM »
I find it interesting, also, if I'm the team, now is the time I take him a large offer- he started with $10 million (including salary through 2015), half to the tax man, a penchant for nice cars, a home for mom and dad, a few vacations... now might be the time to come in an offer him a nice extension 
I'm a strong proponent of pay more early, pay less later.

Offline BH34Natural

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« Reply #144: May 29, 2012, 01:30:35 PM »
I find it interesting, also, if I'm the team, now is the time I take him a large offer- he started with $10 million (including salary through 2015), half to the tax man, a penchant for nice cars, a home for mom and dad, a few vacations... now might be the time to come in an offer him a nice extension

You're exactly right. Now is that time.

Sign him to a ten year deal between now and December, and truly relax a while. Because lets be honest... no one is relaxed about it now. Not truly. Right now it's the elephant in the room. No one wants to talk about it now, just sweep it under the rug until he's 21. But the issue exists and the conversation will need to be had

Still allows him free agency at 29 (not 26 as it is presently). If you sign him to 10/$200 million now; you save yourself a 10/300 million later. And the risk of losing him at all.

One wonders if Anaheim is considering the same thing with their 20 year old Trout.

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Re: Future of big name Nats
« Reply #145: May 29, 2012, 01:31:19 PM »
Yes.... The OP. BH34 has bumped this thread a couple times.

And I'm not bothered, I just find it pointless.

I've only bumped it once. I just think it makes off days a little easier to get through with good discussion. We can probably start one on Strasburg too.

Offline MarquisDeSade

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Re: Future of big name Nats
« Reply #146: May 29, 2012, 01:57:38 PM »
You're exactly right. Now is that time.

Sign him to a ten year deal between now and December, and truly relax a while.

Uh, no.

Offline BH34Natural

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« Reply #147: May 29, 2012, 01:59:49 PM »
Uh, no.

Coming from someone who doesn't think he's here beyond the next 6.75 years, I'm interested in hearing why not. And "who cares" is not sufficient.

Offline MarquisDeSade

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Re: Future of big name Nats
« Reply #148: May 29, 2012, 02:10:12 PM »
Lots of things can happen between 19 and 25.  It's insane to consider throwing out 10 year extensions to a kid that, while really exciting right now, could easily catch the injury bug and be a flash in the pan.  Not saying either of those will happen just that they could.  Besides, if they Lerners are going to extend anyone they would have thrown JZimm or Strasburg a ton of coin but they haven't.

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« Reply #149: May 29, 2012, 02:26:34 PM »
Another concern; is who will the ownership even be in the hands of when Harper is a free agent if Ted Lerner (age 86 now) is no longer alive? Will it still be the Lerner family? I am not informed as to whether or not Ted has a son that would take over like Steinbrenner did. That's a big deal when talking about a team keeping it's nucleus locked up. I know Ted is willing to spend... but the next guy might not be.

(See Cleveland Indians - Dick Jacobs/Dolan family of the present)