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Re: The Bryce Harper Compendium
« Reply #1625: September 29, 2012, 03:40:59 PM »
Mike Trout, I'd say. I know I know heresy. But god is Harper good at this age. Imagine what he'll be like at 25...

Well, his best quality right now, his base running and fielding, may decline as he thickens and injuries take a toll, but his power numbers and knowledge of MLB pitching should improve. Will definitely be interesting to watch his metamorphosis from one kind of star to another.  He's Pete Rose right now, but he may morf into Mickey Mantle.

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Re: The Bryce Harper Compendium
« Reply #1626: September 29, 2012, 03:42:19 PM »
Mike Trout, I'd say. I know I know heresy. But god is Harper good at this age. Imagine what he'll be like at 25...

It's not heresy, but if Harp makes the jump from 19 to 20 that Trout did, this won't be the case.  Heck, he's been so much better at 19 than Trout was that he may not need to make a huge jump to match Trout.

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« Reply #1627: September 29, 2012, 03:47:19 PM »
It's not heresy, but if Harp makes the jump from 19 to 20 that Trout did, this won't be the case.  Heck, he's been so much better at 19 than Trout was that he may not need to make a huge jump to match Trout.

I'll definitely agree with this.

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Re: The Bryce Harper Compendium
« Reply #1628: September 29, 2012, 03:50:53 PM »
It's not heresy, but if Harp makes the jump from 19 to 20 that Trout did, this won't be the case.  Heck, he's been so much better at 19 than Trout was that he may not need to make a huge jump to match Trout.

That is such a huge if. I don't think people understand how crazy Trout's numbers are in comparison to last year.

If Bryce can put up a season like Upton's 2011 season, then I'll be amazed

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Re: The Bryce Harper Compendium
« Reply #1629: September 29, 2012, 04:00:06 PM »
That is such a huge if. I don't think people understand how crazy Trout's numbers are in comparison to last year.

If Bryce can put up a season like Upton's 2011 season, then I'll be amazed

It might  be, but who among us thought he'd be able to do this year what he's done?  Put your hand down, you liar.  (not you specifically, Slate, but the hypothetical person who did just raise their hand).  No one thought he'd be able to turn himself into 5 WAR player at 19.  No one thought he'd be able to slide right into the 2 hole and handle it, which despite his struggles after the ASB, he has.  Who thought he'd put himself into the upper tier of CF's in the game right now, which, again, he has.  Two years after being a full time catcher in college.  Who thought he'd be a difference maker in a pennant race?  Who thought he'd come up and play with the poise of an eight year vet?  Who thought he'd come in and change the mentality of a whole team by how he plays?  Who thought he's make the all-star team in the first place?

I know I didn't expect any of this.  He's done so much before his 20th birthday that it really isn't a huge stretch to think he can close the game that really isn't that big to begin with between him and Trout.  If he's as driven as he is talented, it should be expected of him.  I know I certainly wouldn't be surprised if he does.  It really isn't that big of a stretch.

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Re: The Bryce Harper Compendium
« Reply #1630: September 29, 2012, 04:02:42 PM »
Two years after being a full time catcher in college.

Freaking junior college.

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Re: The Bryce Harper Compendium
« Reply #1631: September 29, 2012, 04:19:00 PM »
Man-boy among boy-men.

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Re: The Bryce Harper Compendium
« Reply #1632: September 29, 2012, 05:44:12 PM »
I really can't wait to see Harper accept his WS MVP award in a few more weeks (or at least stand next Zimmerman).

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Re: The Bryce Harper Compendium
« Reply #1633: September 30, 2012, 05:27:54 AM »
A negative defensive adjustment, even with his great game last night leaves Bryce Harper still at 4.6 fWAR with four to play (and some undeterminate amount below Mel Ott).  He shouldn't have lost that ball in the sun!


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Re: The Bryce Harper Compendium
« Reply #1634: September 30, 2012, 02:44:10 PM »
Mike Trout, I'd say.


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Re: The Bryce Harper Compendium
« Reply #1635: September 30, 2012, 09:55:53 PM »
That's just ridiculous


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Since Aug. 17, Player A: .319/.395/.652 with 13 HR. Player B: .327/.387/.667 with 12 HR. Player A: Miguel Cabrera. Player B: Bryce Harper.

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Re: The Bryce Harper Compendium
« Reply #1636: September 30, 2012, 11:03:59 PM »
That's just ridiculous


Jeff Passan ‏@JeffPassan
Since Aug. 17, Player A: .319/.395/.652 with 13 HR. Player B: .327/.387/.667 with 12 HR. Player A: Miguel Cabrera. Player B: Bryce Harper.

 :shock:  almost identical.

bryce for clean-up next year!

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Re: The Bryce Harper Compendium
« Reply #1637: September 30, 2012, 11:09:04 PM »
That's just ridiculous


Jeff Passan ‏@JeffPassan
Since Aug. 17, Player A: .319/.395/.652 with 13 HR. Player B: .327/.387/.667 with 12 HR. Player A: Miguel Cabrera. Player B: Bryce Harper.

Holy freak

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Re: The Bryce Harper Compendium
« Reply #1638: October 01, 2012, 08:23:13 AM »
This morning, Bryce Harper stands alone.  4.7 fWAR :worship:

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Re: The Bryce Harper Compendium
« Reply #1639: October 01, 2012, 08:45:37 AM »
It might  be, but who among us thought he'd be able to do this year what he's done?  Put your hand down, you liar.  (not you specifically, Slate, but the hypothetical person who did just raise their hand).  No one thought he'd be able to turn himself into 5 WAR player at 19.  No one thought he'd be able to slide right into the 2 hole and handle it, which despite his struggles after the ASB, he has.  Who thought he'd put himself into the upper tier of CF's in the game right now, which, again, he has.  Two years after being a full time catcher in college.  Who thought he'd be a difference maker in a pennant race?  Who thought he'd come up and play with the poise of an eight year vet?  Who thought he'd come in and change the mentality of a whole team by how he plays?  Who thought he's make the all-star team in the first place?

I know I didn't expect any of this.  He's done so much before his 20th birthday that it really isn't a huge stretch to think he can close the game that really isn't that big to begin with between him and Trout.  If he's as driven as he is talented, it should be expected of him.  I know I certainly wouldn't be surprised if he does.  It really isn't that big of a stretch.

I don't know if I thought he would be this good, but I did pick him to win ROY.

I've said all along that this kid is a freak so we really have to put aside any thoughts on his limitations. The sky is the limit.

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Re: The Bryce Harper Compendium
« Reply #1640: October 01, 2012, 10:16:55 AM »
Only 0.3 WAR from a 5 WAR season

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Re: The Bryce Harper Compendium
« Reply #1641: October 01, 2012, 10:48:07 AM »
I didn't think he'd be this good this soon. Good for Harper!

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Re: The Bryce Harper Compendium
« Reply #1642: October 01, 2012, 11:38:28 AM »
This morning, Bryce Harper stands alone.  4.7 fWAR :worship:

:shock:

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Re: The Bryce Harper Compendium
« Reply #1643: October 01, 2012, 12:25:24 PM »
He's Pete Rose right now, but he may morf into Mickey Mantle.


Nah, I already got Merry Tyle Moore as the next Mantle.

I see Harper more as a Gehrig type player.


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Re: The Bryce Harper Compendium
« Reply #1644: October 01, 2012, 12:36:29 PM »
So I should expect Harper to put up 10 WAR next year b/c Trout did this year, and Trout is 20, and Harper will be 20 next year?  JUst making sure I'm following all the logic here

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Re: The Bryce Harper Compendium
« Reply #1645: October 01, 2012, 12:50:00 PM »
So I should expect Harper to put up 10 WAR next year b/c Trout did this year, and Trout is 20, and Harper will be 20 next year?  JUst making sure I'm following all the logic here

Well if we're using that "logic," Trout would have accumulated 3.2 WAR over 160 games last year, and Harper would have had 5.5 over 160 this year, so Harper is 71.875% better than Trout. If Trout played 160 games this year, he'd have 11.76 WAR, and since Harper's 71.875% better, Bryce Harper will have 20.2 WAR next year. To put this in perspective, Babe Ruth's highest single-season WAR was 15.4.

:lol:

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Re: The Bryce Harper Compendium
« Reply #1646: October 01, 2012, 02:21:19 PM »
So I should expect Harper to put up 10 WAR next year b/c Trout did this year, and Trout is 20, and Harper will be 20 next year?  JUst making sure I'm following all the logic here

No. There's no telling how Harper will develop. Remember what happened to Heyward and Upton.

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Re: The Bryce Harper Compendium
« Reply #1647: October 01, 2012, 02:50:39 PM »
If Trout played 160 games this year, he'd have 11.76 WAR, and since Harper's 71.875% better, Bryce Harper will have 20.2 WAR next year. To put this in perspective, Babe Ruth's highest single-season WAR was 15.4.

:lol:

nothing is out of reach for Bryce!


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Re: The Bryce Harper Compendium
« Reply #1648: October 01, 2012, 11:16:48 PM »
nothing is out of reach for Bryce!



except beer

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Re: The Bryce Harper Compendium
« Reply #1649: October 01, 2012, 11:20:56 PM »
except beer

Hilarious.....MLB was wondering if Bryce was given juice boxes after the game!