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Evol - nice job.  Hope the name sticks.  I'm not a twitter / facebook guy, so I did not see it until it was mentioned this year on other forums and this one.  This is a perfect nickname, I/M/O, because it reflects the town and an accomplishment.   

Your point about the Pedro comparison is interesting.  Another stat that is amazing is that Gio (1.41) and Stras (1.78) are #2 and #4 in FIP in MLB, E-Jax #10 (2.15), and JZ #16 (2.41).  That kind of shows the ERA is not too far out of line with their own performance.  Team FIP and Team ERA (SP and relievers) are nearly identical at 2.30 and 2.34, respectively, while starter FIP is 2.06.  3 trips through the rotation plus 1 extra start, and the starter WAR is 3.4.  That is a great start, but if the ability to suppress homers is for real, then it really is something deserved by their performance.

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Evol - nice job.  Hope the name sticks.  I'm not a twitter / facebook guy, so I did not see it until it was mentioned this year on other forums and this one.  This is a perfect nickname, I/M/O, because it reflects the town and an accomplishment.   

Your point about the Pedro comparison is interesting.  Another stat that is amazing is that Gio (1.41) and Stras (1.78) are #2 and #4 in FIP in MLB, E-Jax #10 (2.15), and JZ #16 (2.41).  That kind of shows the ERA is not too far out of line with their own performance.  Team FIP and Team ERA (SP and relievers) are nearly identical at 2.30 and 2.34, respectively, while starter FIP is 2.06.  3 trips through the rotation plus 1 extra start, and the starter WAR is 3.4.  That is a great start, but if the ability to suppress homers is for real, then it really is something deserved by their performance.

I think it will stick. FP is using it on the air and Zuckerman has used it a few times in his gamer. What I would really like to see is a group of fans with cardboard K Street signs sitting behind the opposing dugout and hold them up whenever a batter K's to greet him on his way back to the dugout.

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It's weird having a power pitching staff now.  In years past it seemed like there were no starters that could throw over 90.  Especially trotting Livan and Lannan out there.

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They actually used it in RFK in 2005.

Yes, but it was the name of the area where the guy sat who used to hang the "K"'s for each strikeout over the railing, down the left field line.  I can't remember his handle but he was an active early poster on the MLB board.  Bumsfan4 was also a resident of the area.  There was always an open invitation to visit K-street for a brewski.   :cheers:

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Yes, but it was the name of the area where the guy sat who used to hang the "K"'s for each strikeout over the railing, down the left field line.  I can't remember his handle but he was an active early poster on the MLB board.  Bumsfan4 was also a resident of the area.  There was always an open invitation to visit K-street for a brewski.   :cheers:

That's true, but the nickname for that section was not widely known.  K Street as a nickname for Strasburg was coined by some columnist I can't remember off the top of my head and then further popularized by the Sports Bog.  It disappeared along with the Ks in centerfield after Stras got the Tommy John.

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Nationals pitching talk on MLB Network:

DJ Interview.mpg

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Nationals pitching talk on MLB Network:

DJ Interview.mpg

Davey Johnson: "I like challenges, and this is a challenge to put Washington on the map. 
It's a baseball town, not a football town."

[I'm a longtime Redskins fan.  But it's nice to hear Johnson imply that Redskins owner, Dan Snyder, can SUCK IT with his inability to field a winner.]


Davey Johnson, 69, reached a milestone with the Nationals' win Saturday afternoon. 
He got his 1,200th career win as a manager, with a .562 win percentage.

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Current ERAs:

Detwiler: 0.56
Strasburg: 1.08
Zimmermann: 1.29
Gonzalez: 1.52
Jackson: 4.26

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Nats pitching is Finga Gunz.

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cross post from the era thread, alhtuogh this article is for the whole staff

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/the-nationals-do-not-give-up-home-runs/

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http://www.fangraphs.com/fantasy/index.php/edwin-jackson-nl-starting-pitcher/

lots of love for E-Jax declining BB rate, K an inning performance, use of change and curve along with his slider and fastball, etc...  Mentions K Street's current 22 IP shutout streak. :thumbs:

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http://www.fangraphs.com/fantasy/index.php/edwin-jackson-nl-starting-pitcher/

lots of love for E-Jax declining BB rate, K an inning performance, use of change and curve along with his slider and fastball, etc...  Mentions K Street's current 22 IP shutout streak. :thumbs:


I think Jackson's gonna have a very nice year.  He's been impressive so far - gotta love how he rebounded in his last start after that bad first inning.

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But his ERA is so high :stir:

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a while ago we talked about IP/GS as one of the better statistics for measuring the likelihood that your team would be good.  All the playoff teams last year in the NL were in the top in this metric, while the two worst teams were us, and Pittsburgh.

As of now, we're tied with Cincy and STL for 4th in the NL with 6.2 IP per GS.  1-3 are Philly, MIA, & SF.  Pittsburgh, of course, is still in dead last.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/NL/2012-starter-pitching.shtml


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But his ERA is so high :stir:

But his whip is lower than Strasburg's.  Actually, of the four starters who qualify, Strasburg has the highest WHIP. :shock:

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You got that it was a joke, right?

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You got that it was a joke, right?

Yes but where else could I have added my little nugget of goodness???

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Okay just making sure :lol:

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a while ago we talked about IP/GS as one of the better statistics for measuring the likelihood that your team would be good.  All the playoff teams last year in the NL were in the top in this metric, while the two worst teams were us, and Pittsburgh.

As of now, we're tied with Cincy and STL for 4th in the NL with 6.2 IP per GS.  1-3 are Philly, MIA, & SF.  Pittsburgh, of course, is still in dead last.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/NL/2012-starter-pitching.shtml




with Strasburg and Zimmnn in the rotation we will (and should) have a lower IP/G than the top teams.  I wouldn't worry about that too much. 

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with Strasburg and Zimmnn in the rotation we will (and should) have a lower IP/G than the top teams.  I wouldn't worry about that too much. 

i think it's a pretty important stat, and our low IP/GS was one of the reasons why Rizzo got Jackson & GG, both are 200 IP pitchers.  A high IP/GS keeps your bullpen fresh over the course of the season.   Look at recent history:

Top 6:
2011: PHI, AZ, LAD, SFG, STL, MIL  (PHI, AZ, STL, MIL were playoff teams) (Nats were 15)
2010: PHI, SFG, AZ, STL, ATL, CIN  (PHI, SFG, ATL, CIN were playoff teams) (Nats were 15)
2009: STL, ATL, SFG, AZ, CHI, COL (COL, STL were playoffs, PHI was 8th, LAD was 10th) (Nats were 13)



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Bit of trivia.

Of the 5 Nationals Starters, how many were not born in the United States, and where were they born?

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Bit of trivia.

Of the 5 Nationals Starters, how many were not born in the United States, and where were they born?

I'm spoiler-tagging my answer. No peeking, fellow guessers!!!!
Edwin Jackson is from Germany. I'd kind of guess Gio is USA-born but that's blind ignorance talking. So 1.

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Strasburg was born in a manger in Bethlehem. 

Gio was born whereever eagleskins says he was born - definitely not here.

JZ was born on the planet Krypton shortly before it exploded.

Detwiler's heritage is mixed.  He was born in a blue city in a purple state that is tending red.  At least half the board thinks that he was born in not our USA.

Jackson?  A real American. 

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Davey's managed to not overwork the bullpen even when some say he is lifting starters too early.  Last year, Storen and Clippard both were in the top 25 in appearances.  This year, the Nats do not have a reliever who has appeared in more than 9 games.  About 30 relievers have already appeared in 10 or more games.  Clippard has only appeared in 8. There are about 60 relievers who have made more appearances. 

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Gio was supposed to be on Intentional Talk today but they couldn't find him until the very end of the show for a couple of minutes.

Gio on IT