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Offline Kevrock

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« Reply #50: April 20, 2012, 08:34:28 PM »
Stupid.

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« Reply #51: April 21, 2012, 10:35:36 AM »
Okay...tomorrow's game is likely to be rained out and Monday's an off day.  That's two consecutive days off coming up.   So why is Davey giving LaRoche, our leading RBI man, the day off today???

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« Reply #52: April 21, 2012, 11:08:29 AM »
Okay...tomorrow's game is likely to be rained out and Monday's an off day.  That's two consecutive days off coming up.   So why is Davey giving LaRoche, our leading RBI man, the day off today???

Maybe he isn't fully recovered and still has some pain throwing.  If so, a  three day rest might be just what he needs.

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« Reply #53: April 21, 2012, 12:25:48 PM »
Okay...tomorrow's game is likely to be rained out and Monday's an off day.  That's two consecutive days off coming up.   So why is Davey giving LaRoche, our leading RBI man, the day off today???

If Sunday's game is rained out, they'll play it on Monday.  The Marlins have no game scheduled then either.


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« Reply #54: April 21, 2012, 01:38:07 PM »
I don't understand Davey's commitment to veterans. I get there is value in veterans, but this is sports. Performance plays.

DeRosa came in to today hitting .077. So not only does Davey give him a start of Lombardozzi, but he hits THIRD!?!!?

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« Reply #55: April 21, 2012, 01:39:29 PM »
Nats in general slow to react to changes.

See Morse, Michael.

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« Reply #56: April 21, 2012, 04:35:35 PM »
Free Lombo!

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« Reply #57: April 21, 2012, 07:30:44 PM »
You want to complain about Davey Johnson's style....

Look no further then the ineptitude of Bobby Valentine.

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« Reply #58: April 21, 2012, 08:00:25 PM »
You want to complain about Davey Johnson's style....

Look no further then the ineptitude of Bobby Valentine.

Not really his fault. He has a Triple A bullpen. And a bunch of stars who are acting like spoiled brats.

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« Reply #59: April 21, 2012, 08:10:29 PM »
Not really his fault. He has a Triple A bullpen. And a bunch of stars who are acting like spoiled brats.
Blowing a 9-0 lead deep into the 7th...and thats not on the manager?

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« Reply #60: April 21, 2012, 08:17:55 PM »
Blowing a 9-0 lead deep into the 7th...and thats not on the manager?

I'd say that the blown lead against the Cubs last year was 100% on Davey for leaving Livo in too long.

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« Reply #61: April 21, 2012, 08:20:22 PM »
Blowing a 9-0 lead deep into the 7th...and thats not on the manager?

Who was he supposed to put in the game? Can Papi pitch?

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« Reply #62: April 21, 2012, 08:35:57 PM »
Okay...tomorrow's game is likely to be rained out and Monday's an off day.  That's two consecutive days off coming up.   So why is Davey giving LaRoche, our leading RBI man, the day off today???

Well, for one thing, you can never plan on a rain out.  Weather is too unpredictable to bank on it.  You carry out your plan as though every game will be played.  If mother nature intervenes, so be it.

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« Reply #63: April 21, 2012, 08:37:18 PM »
Okay...tomorrow's game is likely to be rained out and Monday's an off day.  That's two consecutive days off coming up.   So why is Davey giving LaRoche, our leading RBI man, the day off today???

They will play tomorrow's game on Monday ...

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« Reply #64: April 22, 2012, 12:06:31 AM »
They will play tomorrow's game on Monday ...

Unlikely because the Nationals have a game in San Diego on Tuesday.

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« Reply #65: April 22, 2012, 12:21:31 AM »
Unlikely because the Nationals have a game in San Diego on Tuesday.

What would be the attendance for a cold 1 PM Monday afternoon start against the Marlins?  200?

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« Reply #66: April 22, 2012, 12:33:33 AM »
We need an extra day off, in addition to Monday because, for some reason, we've played the most games (actually tied with Oakland, Seattle and San Diego).  Oak and Sea played in Japan so there's a reason they've played the most games but there's no reason why the Nationals and Padres have played 16 games when other teams (8 of them) have played 14, counting the Indians who've actually played 13 but have had a rain out.  That's 8 teams having played  two fewer than the Nats and those other three teams.  Add to that, we've played so many extra innings games.

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« Reply #67: April 22, 2012, 01:15:26 AM »
We need an extra day off, in addition to Monday because, for some reason, we've played the most games (actually tied with Oakland, Seattle and San Diego).  Oak and Sea played in Japan so there's a reason they've played the most games but there's no reason why the Nationals and Padres have played 16 games when other teams (8 of them) have played 14, counting the Indians who've actually played 13 but have had a rain out.  That's 8 teams having played  two fewer than the Nats and those other three teams.  Add to that, we've played so many extra innings games.


Two things. First, as you mentioned, Oak and Sea played in Japan during ST. So they've had one more offday than the Nats or SD.

Secondly, it's interesting our next matching is against SD. The two most worn out teams facing each other so early on, at least the scheduler was fair there. Although not so fair to the Nats making us travel across the country on top of wearing us out so early. SD has only had two away series, in Colorado and LA. So yeah, nice job beating on the Nats, scheduler. At least SD has had more home games and never traveled any distance from the west coast. The Nats really got beat on, playing the most games and having a west coast trip so early... It's absurd when you point out no other teams have had as few offdays save SD, who haven't had a cross country road trip yet. Hell after we play SD, they have the horrors of traveling all the way to SF, and then more homestands against Florida and Mil and Co before finally traveling to the East Coast for Philly.

The Nats, meanwhile, have four off days until June, including tomorrow, and I don't consider a cross country trip to be an off day. The Padres get an offday tomorrow as well, in between a homestand. They have another offday in between the FLAP and Mil series. To Nats have zero offdays in between a homestand before June, with travel between home and Pit, and Atl and Philly, and finally home and Miami. There's a hell of a difference between an offday at home and an offday with travel, even if it isn't isn't cross country trip. So yeah, bottom line, the Nats get screwed hardcore by the scheduler this time around, so it's a miracle we are doing so Damn well.

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« Reply #68: April 22, 2012, 08:43:31 AM »
A miracle and great pitching...which helps to make miracles!

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« Reply #69: April 22, 2012, 09:08:44 AM »
Nice post, Coladar.

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« Reply #70: April 22, 2012, 09:25:03 AM »


Two things. First, as you mentioned, Oak and Sea played in Japan during ST. So they've had one more offday than the Nats or SD.

Secondly, it's interesting our next matching is against SD. The two most worn out teams facing each other so early on, at least the scheduler was fair there. Although not so fair to the Nats making us travel across the country on top of wearing us out so early. SD has only had two away series, in Colorado and LA. So yeah, nice job beating on the Nats, scheduler. At least SD has had more home games and never traveled any distance from the west coast. The Nats really got beat on, playing the most games and having a west coast trip so early... It's absurd when you point out no other teams have had as few offdays save SD, who haven't had a cross country road trip yet. Hell after we play SD, they have the horrors of traveling all the way to SF, and then more homestands against Florida and Mil and Co before finally traveling to the East Coast for Philly.

The Nats, meanwhile, have four off days until June, including tomorrow, and I don't consider a cross country trip to be an off day. The Padres get an offday tomorrow as well, in between a homestand. They have another offday in between the FLAP and Mil series. To Nats have zero offdays in between a homestand before June, with travel between home and Pit, and Atl and Philly, and finally home and Miami. There's a hell of a difference between an offday at home and an offday with travel, even if it isn't isn't cross country trip. So yeah, bottom line, the Nats get screwed hardcore by the scheduler this time around, so it's a miracle we are doing so Damn well.

We did catch a break with the teams we've played early on though.  Already have had series against the Chubbies and Astros.

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« Reply #71: April 22, 2012, 09:27:13 AM »
What would be the attendance for a cold 1 PM Monday afternoon start against the Marlins?  200?

The only alternative is a doubleheader on one of the next two trips. Nats don't have a day off before or after either trip.  And in both cases they travel immediately after, for a road game the next day.  I'm betting they'll try to get the game in tomorrow if it's rained out today.

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« Reply #72: April 22, 2012, 05:07:28 PM »
The Nats, meanwhile, have four off days until June, including tomorrow, and I don't consider a cross country trip to be an off day. The Padres get an offday tomorrow as well, in between a homestand. They have another offday in between the FLAP and Mil series. To Nats have zero offdays in between a homestand before June, with travel between home and Pit, and Atl and Philly, and finally home and Miami. There's a hell of a difference between an offday at home and an offday with travel, even if it isn't isn't cross country trip. So yeah, bottom line, the Nats get screwed hardcore by the scheduler this time around, so it's a miracle we are doing so Damn well.
This is why I think regular spot starts need to be on the GM and Davey's radar.  Whether it is Gorz, Lannan on a call up, or Wang after rehab, the only way this team is getting an extra day's rest for starters is by inserting a spot start.

I looked at the schedule and tried to line up the rotation through the first Phillies series.  The rain delay allows us to throw the big 3 all 3 games.  The only rest problem is that everyone would get 2 days extra rest the first time through the rotation. 

Here's how it lines up for the next 12 games, with rest indicated:

Gio - 4/24 @sd (6 days rest), 4/29 @LAD, 5/5 Phi (5 days)
JZ - 4/25 @SD (6 days), 5/1 AZ (5 days) , 5/6 Phi
E-Jax - 4/26 @ SD (6 days), 5/2 AZ (5 days) (former team)
Det - 4/27 @ LAD (6 days), 5/3 AZ (5 days)
Stras - 4/28 @LAD (6 days), 5/4 PHI (5 days)

There is another off day on 5/7, so everyone could get 5 days before the next start.  However, you could flip flop Jackson and Detwiler at that point, which would line up Detwiler to pitch 5/13 (@Reds), 5/18 (Os), and 5/23 (@PHI).  The series @ Philly would be Gio, Stas, Det, or 2 lefties and Strasburg.

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« Reply #73: April 25, 2012, 02:59:18 AM »
Anyone want to comment on Davey taking out basically our best defensive outfielder and ultimately the best hitting of our outfielders in Rick Ankiel last night?

If Ankiel is playing CF that error doesn't happen.

At least Davey realized his mistake and pinch hit at the right time to get Ramos home for the insurance run.

Ankiel is definitely my favorite outfielder so far.

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« Reply #74: April 25, 2012, 03:09:32 AM »
Ankiel is hitting well right now, but he's not the best offensive outfielder. I know WNFF hates Werth, but c'mon.