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Offline RobDibblesGhost

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Re: Nationals vs Astros, Game 2
« Reply #450: April 17, 2012, 09:14:06 PM »
freak

Offline Tyler Durden

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Re: Nationals vs Astros, Game 2
« Reply #451: April 17, 2012, 09:14:13 PM »
What is this crap?

Offline sportsfan882

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Re: Nationals vs Astros, Game 2
« Reply #452: April 17, 2012, 09:14:18 PM »
3 sliders in a row missed up. We're freaked

Offline mbeane19

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Re: Nationals vs Astros, Game 2
« Reply #453: April 17, 2012, 09:14:21 PM »
Bad, filthy, awful words!

Offline Sharp

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Re: Nationals vs Astros, Game 2
« Reply #454: April 17, 2012, 09:14:24 PM »
Do we have anyone warming?

Offline TylerDC

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Re: Nationals vs Astros, Game 2
« Reply #455: April 17, 2012, 09:14:42 PM »
Do we have anyone warming?

Doesn't seem like it.

Offline zimm_da_kid

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Re: Nationals vs Astros, Game 2
« Reply #456: April 17, 2012, 09:14:45 PM »
the 1st 2 pitches were both k's according to gameday

Offline tomterp

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Re: Nationals vs Astros, Game 2
« Reply #457: April 17, 2012, 09:14:45 PM »
Too obsessed with the idea of a 'closer'.. just let Clipp go two.

He is coming off a bit of shoulder stiffness.  Not sure it's the right time to push the envelope with him.

Gio was as dominant as ever in the 7th, and didn't he have less than 80 pitches?

Lidge's first two pitches were strikes here, more great umpiring.    :?

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Re: Nationals vs Astros, Game 2
« Reply #458: April 17, 2012, 09:14:53 PM »
Holy crap, 3-0. Come on.

Offline RobDibblesGhost

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Re: Nationals vs Astros, Game 2
« Reply #459: April 17, 2012, 09:14:53 PM »
Two out

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Re: Nationals vs Astros, Game 2
« Reply #460: April 17, 2012, 09:14:53 PM »
one more, one more :pray:

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Re: Nationals vs Astros, Game 2
« Reply #461: April 17, 2012, 09:15:01 PM »
Lucky.

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Re: Nationals vs Astros, Game 2
« Reply #462: April 17, 2012, 09:15:02 PM »
One more!!! JESUS CHRIST!

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Re: Nationals vs Astros, Game 2
« Reply #463: April 17, 2012, 09:15:05 PM »
One more Lidge!

Offline BerkeleyNat

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Re: Nationals vs Astros, Game 2
« Reply #464: April 17, 2012, 09:15:08 PM »
 :clap:

Offline sportsfan882

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Re: Nationals vs Astros, Game 2
« Reply #465: April 17, 2012, 09:15:15 PM »
2 down, got lucky there.

Now please get this one

Offline KingHarper

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Re: Nationals vs Astros, Game 2
« Reply #466: April 17, 2012, 09:15:19 PM »
1 more. please lidge

Offline JMUalumni

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Re: Nationals vs Astros, Game 2
« Reply #467: April 17, 2012, 09:15:38 PM »
I'm always welcome to read studies about pitch counts or pitch injuries or pitching mechanics, as I state in any pitching conversation on this site. So if you have a study or something you're leaning on for this, I'd love to read it.

And not to be snarky -- but I'd be surprised if a study has been done that analyzes the risk on world-class athletes in prime conditioning shape throwing 130+ pitches in April. My point -- why would you ever risk injury for a game in April?

But like I said, I'd love to read any studies that discuss pitch counts that high.

If you condition properly, you can hit 120-130 early in the season, Halladay has been doing it for years.  For me the number is not as important as the combo of how the pitcher is feeling, how is velocity is looking and what his location is looking like.  being a starting pitcher is inherently risky and going deeper in the game increases the risk of fatigue which can lead to the factors that can produce an injury, I wouldn't deny that.  But some pitchers are able to handle it and they have conditioned their body well enough to reduce the risk.  Personally, I don't think there is any difference b/w them doing it in April and them doing it September.

I have some general articles that I've kept through the years since I was a pitcher and when I was a coach that I can scan when I get a chance this weekend or next (you will have to remind me).  I would also like you to send me anything you have on this 130 number.

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Re: Nationals vs Astros, Game 2
« Reply #468: April 17, 2012, 09:15:44 PM »
Bad strike zone, but the two outs have come on pitches right down the middle...
If you condition properly, you can hit 120-130 early in the season, Halladay has been doing it for years.  For me the number is not as important as the combo of how the pitcher is feeling, how is velocity is looking and what his location is looking like.  being a starting pitcher is inherently risky and going deeper in the game increases the risk of fatigue which can lead to the factors that can produce an injury, I wouldn't deny that.  But some pitchers are able to handle it and they have conditioned their body well enough to reduce the risk.

I have some general articles that I've kept through the years since I was a pitcher and when I was a coach that I can scan when I get a chance this weekend or next (you will have to remind me).  I would also like you to send me anything you have on this 130 number.
Halladay actually rarely goes 120.  He collects CGs like candy because he's so efficient.

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Re: Nationals vs Astros, Game 2
« Reply #469: April 17, 2012, 09:15:47 PM »
MLB.com is evil, they let you look-in to a game in the 9th until the 2nd out is recorded then they're like "HAAA, SUCKA BUY OUR SH****"

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Re: Nationals vs Astros, Game 2
« Reply #470: April 17, 2012, 09:15:56 PM »
I like that Ankiel keeps getting the outs. Prevents runners from moving.

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Re: Nationals vs Astros, Game 2
« Reply #471: April 17, 2012, 09:16:05 PM »
Please don't hang one

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Re: Nationals vs Astros, Game 2
« Reply #472: April 17, 2012, 09:16:22 PM »
shut up FP !

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Re: Nationals vs Astros, Game 2
« Reply #473: April 17, 2012, 09:16:51 PM »
shut up FP !

He's battling out there.

Offline BerkeleyNat

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Re: Nationals vs Astros, Game 2
« Reply #474: April 17, 2012, 09:17:28 PM »
Come on Lidge...get this bum out.