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Sunshine Squad 2012!!!
« Topic Start: March 23, 2012, 04:30:33 PM »
Because we need something to smile about:

3/23/12 Sunshine Squad Highlights:

- Brad Lidge: 1IP, 1H, 2K, 0BB, 0ER - ERA down to 1.80
- Craig Stammen: 1IP 0H, 0K, 0BB, 0ER - ERA down to 1.86
- Jayson Werth - 1-3 to raise his average to .269
- Ian Desmond only struck out in two of his three at bats.
- Espinosa didn't strike out in half his at-bats.

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Re: Sunshine Squad 2012!!!
« Reply #1: March 23, 2012, 05:07:09 PM »
:funny:

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Re: Sunshine Squad 2012!!!
« Reply #2: March 23, 2012, 05:26:41 PM »
Did my post about being happy just to have baseball back in DC not get posted from my phone or did it get moderated?

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Re: Sunshine Squad 2012!!!
« Reply #3: March 23, 2012, 05:28:14 PM »
Did my post about being happy just to have baseball back in DC not get posted from my phone or did it get moderated?

It got moderated and lost in the internets ether. The internet does not want you to be happy. Sorry to be the one to break the such dire news. My condolences.

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Re: Sunshine Squad 2012!!!
« Reply #4: March 23, 2012, 05:33:58 PM »
Did my post about being happy just to have baseball back in DC not get posted from my phone or did it get moderated?

Wasn't me, and nothing in the mod logs.

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« Reply #5: March 23, 2012, 05:44:12 PM »
Wasn't me, and nothing in the mod logs.

Sometimes posting while driving things get lost.

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Re: Sunshine Squad 2012!!!
« Reply #6: March 23, 2012, 05:45:07 PM »
I am disapointed in you shiners.

A bit of sunshine... [no comment on where it is blowing]
  • Jason Michaels hit a homer.  8)
  • Davey Johnson will start using his regular lineup Sunday. :woop:
  • Gio Gonzalez is still smiling and his smile is worth at least 10 wins. ;)  :halo:
  • Nationals already ‘comfortable’ with Steve Lombardozzi in the outfield.  :thumbs:  :pray:
  • Strasburg will start Opening Day.  :glug:
  • Harper could be Nats' long-term CF  :koolaid:

More rainbow than sunshine....
  • Storen has no structural damage.
  • Chris Marrero ahead of schedule.

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Re: Sunshine Squad 2012!!!
« Reply #7: March 23, 2012, 06:02:03 PM »
Bloomberg Sports Front Office predicts Strasburg will throw 160 innings with a 3.03 ERA and 177 K's, or about 9.95 K/9 if my math is correct.

Anyone want to compare that without Livan did last year as our #1?

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« Reply #8: March 23, 2012, 06:02:56 PM »
Bloomberg Sports Front Office predicts Strasburg will throw 160 innings with a 3.03 ERA and 177 K's, or about 9.95 K/9 if my math is correct.

Anyone want to compare that without Livan did last year as our #1?

No need to check, that is significantly better than Livo was projected to produce.

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« Reply #9: March 23, 2012, 06:03:26 PM »
I cannot find a solid source but as I recall we have done better than average in one run games.

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Re: Sunshine Squad 2012!!!
« Reply #10: March 23, 2012, 06:06:42 PM »
Two weeks from OD. If that doesn't bring some Sunshine into your life....

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Re: Sunshine Squad 2012!!!
« Reply #11: March 23, 2012, 06:32:02 PM »
How does one resign from the SSS? Do I stop paying dues?Should I violate my contract with acts of moral inturpitude? I am banning myself for one week (actually going on vacation with the grandkids) . Rizzo needs to find the "white whale"or DJ needs to light a fire. Even our vaunted SP are getting rocked and the attitude is a little too nonchalant IMHO.

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Re: Sunshine Squad 2012!!!
« Reply #12: March 23, 2012, 07:19:57 PM »
Breaking Through to the Other Side: The Washington Nationals
by Sammy Reid on Wednesday, March 21, 2012 at 5:25 pm
http://www.baseballdailydigest.com/2012/03/21/break-on-through-to-the-other-side/

......Some say that starting pitching wins championships, others swear that good hitting does. Others still think a good defense is key, and yet another group will tell you that a shutdown bullpen is essential to win in the playoffs. And you know what? They’re all right.

The reality is good teams win titles, and good teams tend to be well-rounded. The best teams don’t just do one thing well – they do many things well. One day their ace starter might shut you down, and the next day they might hang 10 runs on you. The day after that, their bullpen might hold a one-run lead for the final four innings. And in yet another game you might pepper their pitchers, only to have their defense rob you in key situations, preserving their victory.

When I think of the up-and-coming teams that have strength across the board and could join the echelon of the elite, one team stands out: The Washington Nationals.
No! Wait! Please don’t close minimize the window … hear me out.

Last year, the Nats were nearly the definition of an average team. They were 80-81 and were outscored by 19 runs on the season. There are many reasons why this year’s club is primed to make a run at the playoffs. To start, the team’s starting rotation is a great deal stronger than last season. Ace Stephen Strasburg is back and healthy. He started five games for the team at the end of last season as he made his way back from Tommy John surgery. In those five games he pitched 24 innings, amassing 24 K’s, 2 walks, and a 1.50 ERA.

His career line: 17 starts, 92 IP, 5 HR allowed, 19 BB, 116 K, 2.54 ERA, 0.98 WHIP.

Now imagine if they have him for a whole season. The odds are heavily weighted against him throwing 200 innings, but just adding 150 Verlander-esque frames will be a huge boost for this club.

In addition, the underrated Jordan Zimmermann should have more innings to contribute as well; coming off his own Tommy John last season, the team capped his innings at 160 (he ended up with 161.1). Zimmermann quietly finished 7th in the NL in K/BB rate at an even 4-to-1, trailing only the elite sextuplet of Roy Halladay, Cliff Lee, Clayton Kershaw, Zack Greinke, Cole Hamels, and Madison Bumgarner. The kid gloves should come off this season for Zimm, and he could easily contribute 25% more innings of similar effectiveness.

Rounding out the rotation are two new additions in Gio Gonzalez and Edwin Jackson. The 26 year-old Gonzalez is an improving southpaw who is coming off consecutive seasons with at least 200 innings and 15 wins, with a cumulative 3.17 ERA – all while pitching in the AL. Admittedly, Jackson is no ace, but he makes a fine 4th starter. He’s made at least 31 starts five seasons in a row, averaging 1.5 WAR (wins above replacement) per season.

That leaves their 5th starter, likely to be John Lannan, who in his first four full seasons has averaged over 30 starts per season with a 3.99 ERA. The rotation also has good depth, as lefty Tom Gorzelanny (33 BBs and 95 Ks in 105 IP with the club last season) and righty Chien-Ming Wang (career 59-29, 4.15 ERA) wait in the wings.

The Nats’ lineup should also be improved from last season: Their best position player, Ryan Zimmerman, was limited to just 101 games last season after averaging 145 over his first five seasons. Chances are he’ll log at least 40 more games in 2012 than he did in 2011. First baseman Adam LaRoche will be back as well; he’s a career .815 OPS hitter who only logged 43 games last year.

Jayson Werth was a huge flop in his first go-around with the club last season; after posting an OPS of at least .861 in all four of his seasons with the Phillies, he dropped to .718 last year with the Nats. Because of his age and home ballpark, he’s not likely to ever reach his previous heights, but every projection system under the sun has him recouping at least 50 points of OPS this season.

The Nats’ young middle infield also has room for improvement; 25 year-old Danny Espinosa is primed to build on his .737 OPS from last season, and let’s be honest: 26 year-old Ian Desmond (.656 OPS in 2011) has nowhere to go but up.

We’d be remiss not to mention Bryce Harper, who is the most legitimate power prospect in the game today. He’ll start the season in AAA, but the most likely scenario has him putting in about half the season with the big club. The only real regression candidate on offense is young slugger Michael Morse, who will be hard-pressed to hit .303 or slug .550 again.

In addition to the improvements on offense and defense, the Nats have a strong bullpen with stud closer Drew Storen (2.75 ERA, 43/48 saves in 2011), setup man Tyler Clippard (has averaged 64 appearances, 80 IP, 94 Ks, 6 wins, and a 2.52 ERA over the past three seasons), Brad Lidge (as bad as you might think he’s been, he’s only posted an ERA above 3.36 once in the past five season), plus lefties Sean Burnett (2.99 ERA over the past three seasons) and Gorzelanny.

This is now a team that can beat you in any facet. They can outpitch you; their starting rotation is one of the top five in the NL and their top three of Strasburg, Zimmermann, and Gonzalez are as good as anybody’s. Their #4 and #5 starters are league average, at worst. And they have depth waiting in the wings.

They can out-hit you; the heart of their order will soon be made up of Ryan Zimmerman, Michael Morse, Bryce Harper, and Jayson Werth, and they will be surrounded by solid bats in Adam LaRoche, Danny Espinosa, and Wilson Ramos. (On a side note, the young catcher also plays some mean defense: According to BP’s Mike Fast, he has gained 12.7 runs per 120g for his team through pitch framing which ranks him among baseball’s top 10 catchers, and his 32.4% CS rate ranked 3rd in the majors last season).

They can also shut you down at the end of a game: Their duo of Drew Storen and Tyler Clippard are one of the league’s hardest-hitting 1-2 combos, and Brad Lidge, Sean Burnett, and Tom Gorzelanny create quality depth behind them.

They can even play a little defense; Ryan Zimmerman, Wilson Ramos, Danny Espinosa, and Jayson Werth all rank near the top of their positions in UZR.

Add it all together and you have a team without a major weakness and plenty of room for improvement. You have a team that can win in any fashion. In short, you have this season’s breakout team.




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« Reply #13: March 23, 2012, 07:30:57 PM »
Lock thread.

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« Reply #14: March 23, 2012, 07:35:33 PM »
Breaking Through to the Other Side: The Washington Nationals



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Re: Sunshine Squad 2012!!!
« Reply #15: March 23, 2012, 07:40:07 PM »
Chimera just scored a beauty!

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Re: Sunshine Squad 2012!!!
« Reply #16: March 23, 2012, 08:06:33 PM »
Going to be a great year

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« Reply #17: March 23, 2012, 08:45:49 PM »
Chimera just scored a beauty!

Can he play CF?

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Re: Sunshine Squad 2012!!!
« Reply #18: March 24, 2012, 12:44:59 AM »
Count me as part of the Sunshine Squad this year.

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Re: Sunshine Squad 2012!!!
« Reply #19: March 24, 2012, 07:25:01 AM »
 :hang:  •"We are pretty comfortable with the team that we have right now," said Nationals GM Mike Rizzo to reporters (including MLB.com's Bill Ladson). "If something comes up to improve ourselves, we'll certainly investigate it. We are not selling anybody or shopping anybody or making a lot of phone calls, because we are comfortable where we are at." :lmao:

WE ARE ON TRACK FOR NEXT YEAR

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« Reply #20: March 24, 2012, 07:27:37 AM »
WE ARE ON TRACK FOR NEXT YEAR

For the past seven years we've been two years away from contending so to be a year away is a significant step forward.

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« Reply #21: March 24, 2012, 07:39:32 AM »
We are contenders this year. The wait is over.

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« Reply #22: March 24, 2012, 08:53:32 AM »
For the past seven years we've been two years away from contending so to be a year away is a significant step forward.

Which translates to us being one year away for the next five years. At the end of those five years, I think we actually contend. Rizzo/Lerner math is so confusing at times.  :shock:

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« Reply #23: March 25, 2012, 01:03:57 PM »
Hitting.

I love the analysis, I want it to be true, and, like CALSGR8, I've waited more than 30 years for a team that could win more than half its games. If only this 2012 team could hit!

Problems:

- assumes Espinosa and Desmond improve. They are key, yes. If they hit (and if Desmond can field)...

- assumes LaRoche and Morse can play. Morse worries me, and I'll believe that LaRoche is back when he starts three consecutive games and can pull the ball.

- assumes Werth will return to B+ level, which I expect

- assumes Harper will make an impact, which he might after ASB. Take a look at Mantle's rookie year, or the two minor league seasons it took Killebrew to figure it out.

- assumes there is a bench, which there isn't.

 

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« Reply #24: March 25, 2012, 04:26:31 PM »
Why knock the bench?  Aren't lombo/derosa/tracy better than what we had last year?