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Offline HalfSmokes

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Re: Washington Redskins Thread (2012)
« Reply #2400: January 15, 2013, 12:19:11 PM »
Not a rookie. Completely different draft too. I'd still take Griffin over him too.

the point remains that they passed on him in favor of Beckman

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Re: Washington Redskins Thread (2012)
« Reply #2401: January 15, 2013, 12:19:37 PM »
Watching Wilson and Kaepernick in the playoffs made me wonder, why don't they ever get hit? I know they don't run quite as much as RGIII, but I didn't see either of them take even a knock, whereas Griffin would have gotten clobbered several times in a similar period of time.

they know how to slide and get out of bounds?

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Re: Washington Redskins Thread (2012)
« Reply #2402: January 15, 2013, 12:26:47 PM »
It seems like it's more than know-how. It's almost like Griffin thinks it's his job to get every last half-foot despite the impending impact with a 260lb linebacker bent on his destruction.

they know how to slide and get out of bounds?

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Re: Washington Redskins Thread (2012)
« Reply #2403: January 15, 2013, 12:29:50 PM »
It seems like it's more than know-how. It's almost like Griffin thinks it's his job to get every last half-foot despite the impending impact with a 260lb linebacker bent on his destruction.

the most convincing explanation I've heard (granted filled with anecdotal evidence, arm couch psychology and pure speculation) is that Griffen was drafted to be the savior and he's trying to live up to the role while Wilson and Capernick were always expected to come along slowly and neither has the same degree of pressure, so they're more willing to give up the extra yard or two

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Re: Washington Redskins Thread (2012)
« Reply #2404: January 15, 2013, 12:41:35 PM »
Griffin will simply not last 5 years at the rate he's going.

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Re: Washington Redskins Thread (2012)
« Reply #2406: January 23, 2013, 10:46:56 PM »
Per espn,  Revis is on the market-he be a nice upgrade over hall (but then again so would every other starting cb in the nfl)

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Re: Washington Redskins Thread (2012)
« Reply #2407: January 24, 2013, 01:07:37 AM »
I have to say, Hall played much better down the stretch than he'd played all season. That said, we can do much better. Revis would be prohibitively expensive and thanks to Mara et al, we won't have the cap room or the trade chips. Pass. We do need an upgrade though, that's for sure.

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Re: Washington Redskins Thread (2012)
« Reply #2408: January 24, 2013, 08:10:04 AM »
Per espn,  Revis is on the market-he be a nice upgrade over hall (but then again so would every other starting cb in the nfl)

Would either need the NFL to cancel the cap penalties, or the Redskins to do some massive cap space voodoo in order to get him. And we aren't exactly stocked with draft picks.

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Re: Washington Redskins Thread (2012)
« Reply #2409: January 24, 2013, 08:16:02 AM »
Would either need the NFL to cancel the cap penalties, or the Redskins to do some massive cap space voodoo in order to get him. And we aren't exactly stocked with draft picks.

hall is $11 million alone if he goes

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Re: Washington Redskins Thread (2012)
« Reply #2410: January 24, 2013, 09:02:59 AM »
A silver lining to the salary cap penalty. Pass on this. Players coming off that injury usually take at least one season to return to regular form. Also, you'll have to pay a ton to make him happy. Each succeeding season, after another player gets paid, he'll demand to be paid even more money and will miss the entire preseason. And you have to give up a draft pick and Washington has very few of those anyway.

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Re: Washington Redskins Thread (2012)
« Reply #2411: January 24, 2013, 09:18:21 AM »
hall is $11 million alone if he goes

There are cap penalties for cutting people as well.
A silver lining to the salary cap penalty. Pass on this. Players coming off that injury usually take at least one season to return to regular form. Also, you'll have to pay a ton to make him happy. Each succeeding season, after another player gets paid, he'll demand to be paid even more money and will miss the entire preseason. And you have to give up a draft pick and Washington has very few of those anyway.

I agree. The cap penalty has made it impossible for Snyder to do his usual plethora of signings. Redskins have been forced to draft well.

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Re: Washington Redskins Thread (2012)
« Reply #2412: January 24, 2013, 09:31:58 AM »
There are cap penalties for cutting people as well.

hall can be dumped without a hit- restructuring his deal is why one of the reasons the redskins were punished in the first place

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Re: Washington Redskins Thread (2012)
« Reply #2413: January 24, 2013, 10:26:26 AM »
We could get Revis if we cut players like Jamaal Brown and Josh Wilson.  I mean, I wouldn't mind including our second round pick in a deal since that pick would probably be used on a DB anyway. 

Having Revis, Talib (who we'll probably sign), and D-Hall as our top three corners is pretty nasty. 

We won't get Revis though.  I doubt we have enough ammo to make the trade.

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Re: Washington Redskins Thread (2012)
« Reply #2414: January 24, 2013, 10:29:03 AM »
We could get Revis if we cut players like Jamaal Brown and Josh Wilson.  I mean, I wouldn't mind including our second round pick in a deal since that pick would probably be used on a DB anyway. 

Having Revis, Talib (who we'll probably sign), and D-Hall as our top three corners is pretty nasty. 

We won't get Revis though.  I doubt we have enough ammo to make the trade.

I'd love to see Brown gone. Been a failure since Day 1.

I think Revis and Asomugha will be cut. In which case, I'm down for some cap space voodoo and getting one or the other.

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Re: Washington Redskins Thread (2012)
« Reply #2415: January 24, 2013, 12:38:07 PM »
:doh:

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Re: Washington Redskins Thread (2012)
« Reply #2416: January 24, 2013, 12:41:36 PM »
:doh:

Hall is one of the (in 2011, the worst) corners in the NFL and wilson isn't much better. The team has other holes, and you can only draft so many players and expect them to start year one. Either free agents will have to be brought in, or you're going to have to accept massive holes

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Re: Washington Redskins Thread (2012)
« Reply #2417: January 24, 2013, 12:53:53 PM »
Hall is one of the (in 2011, the worst) corners in the NFL and wilson isn't much better. The team has other holes, and you can only draft so many players and expect them to start year one. Either free agents will have to be brought in, or you're going to have to accept massive holes

No argument from me there. But the idea of bringing in Revis (all things considered) and thinking that any tandem involving Hall is "pretty nasty" is moronic. Also, getting Asomugha would be incredibly dumb. Now I'm convinced that Dan Snyder posts here.

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Re: Washington Redskins Thread (2012)
« Reply #2418: January 24, 2013, 01:18:46 PM »
No argument from me there. But the idea of bringing in Revis (all things considered) and thinking that any tandem involving Hall is "pretty nasty" is moronic. Also, getting Asomugha would be incredibly dumb. Now I'm convinced that Dan Snyder posts here.
what's the alternative, hope multiple draft picks in the secondary (not to mention RT, MLB, and possibly OLB since Orakpo is in the last year of his contract) pan out?

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Re: Washington Redskins Thread (2012)
« Reply #2419: January 24, 2013, 01:23:36 PM »
No argument from me there. But the idea of bringing in Revis (all things considered) and thinking that any tandem involving Hall is "pretty nasty" is moronic. Also, getting Asomugha would be incredibly dumb. Now I'm convinced that Dan Snyder posts here.

But on paper they used to be nasty!

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Re: Washington Redskins Thread (2012)
« Reply #2420: January 24, 2013, 01:25:37 PM »
Former Redskins QB Doug Williams will be interviewed on 106.7 FM The Fan shortly after 1:30 pm today.



http://washington.cbslocal.com/station/106-7-the-fan/

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Re: Washington Redskins Thread (2012)
« Reply #2421: January 24, 2013, 02:01:31 PM »
Hall is one of the (in 2011, the worst) corners in the NFL and wilson isn't much better. The team has other holes, and you can only draft so many players and expect them to start year one. Either free agents will have to be brought in, or you're going to have to accept massive holes

To be fair, Haslett made some adjustments and they played much better. The defense as a whole was better after the bye week.

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