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Offline houston-nat

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2012 media power rankings
« Topic Start: February 01, 2012, 07:07:19 PM »
SI's Joe Lemire just issued the first SI power rankings of the year. Braves #10, Nationals #12, Marlins #14.

It's a pretty fair write-up:

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A full season of Stephen Strasburg, at least half a season of Bryce Harper and a has-to-be-better-season from Jayson Werth -- not to mention the addition of starter Gio Gonzalez -- should have the Nationals playing meaningful games in September (especially if the second wild card is implemented). Washington needs better all-around play at shortstop and could stand to add a true centerfielder, but once Werth, Harper and Michael Morse are all there it should have an outfield that can mash.


...although he clearly hasn't thought too hard about what a Werth Harper Morse outfield would be like defensively.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/joe_lemire/02/01/offseason.power.rankings/index.html?

Offline houston-nat

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Re: 2012 media power rankings
« Reply #1: February 15, 2012, 12:58:45 PM »
ESPN Insider (JimBo, KLaw, Buster) has "Future Power Rankings," where they rank the MLB teams on how good they will be for the next 5 years.

Anybody want to tell us where the Nationals rank?

http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/story?id=7574220&_slug_=mlb-future-power-rankings-2012-nos-20-11&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fmlb%2fstory%3fid%3d7574220%26_slug_%3dmlb-future-power-rankings-2012-nos-20-11

My naive guess is in the range of 6-8.

Offline Lintyfresh85

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Re: 2012 media power rankings
« Reply #2: February 15, 2012, 01:00:08 PM »
I'll spit the difference and go with seventh.

Offline panthers30

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Re: 2012 media power rankings
« Reply #3: February 15, 2012, 01:24:45 PM »
They ranked us #14.

Said a lot of our potential success relies on Strasburg staying healthy/Harper reaching his potential(obviously we knew that).  Olney said of all the teams outside of the top 10, we have the greatest chance to be top 5 in these rankings a year from now.

They also said we need to start grooming a manager to replace Davey, whether it's someone established like Francona or an unknown up and comer.  Said it's crucial we get someone that can earn the respect of Stras/Harper and get the most out of their potential.

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Re: 2012 media power rankings
« Reply #4: February 15, 2012, 02:27:00 PM »
I'm thinking they go with Randy Knoor - he's done a great job in the minors

Offline comish4lif

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Re: 2012 media power rankings
« Reply #5: February 15, 2012, 02:44:26 PM »
ESPN Insider (JimBo, KLaw, Buster) has "Future Power Rankings," where they rank the MLB teams on how good they will be for the next 5 years.

Anybody want to tell us where the Nationals rank?

http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/story?id=7574220&_slug_=mlb-future-power-rankings-2012-nos-20-11&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fmlb%2fstory%3fid%3d7574220%26_slug_%3dmlb-future-power-rankings-2012-nos-20-11

My naive guess is in the range of 6-8.


30: Baltimore - that completely pleases me
29: Astros
28: White Sox
27: Manny Acta's Indians
26: NY Mess
25: Twins
24: Pirates
23: San Jose A's
22: Miami
21: Milwaukee
20: SD
19: Dodgers
18: Mariners
17: Giants
16: Reds
15: Rockies
14: YOURRRR WASHINGTON NATIONALS
13: Cubs (the Theo factor?)
12: Tigers
11: Royal
10 - 1: Article to run on the 16th.

Offline R-Zim#11

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Re: 2012 media power rankings
« Reply #6: February 15, 2012, 02:51:54 PM »
30: Baltimore - that completely pleases me
29: Astros
28: White Sox
27: Manny Acta's Indians
26: NY Mess
25: Twins
24: Pirates
23: San Jose A's
22: Miami
21: Milwaukee
20: SD
19: Dodgers
18: Mariners
17: Giants
16: Reds
15: Rockies
14: YOURRRR WASHINGTON NATIONALS
13: Cubs (the Theo factor?)
12: Tigers
11: Royal
10 - 1: Article to run on the 16th.

Is it any surprise that 4 of the top 10 are in the AL East? Plus Philly, Texas, LAA, Atlanta, Arizona and St. Louis. Hmmm...all teams that are good right now. Other than the Tigers, there isn't much deviation from the current power rankings. Once again, ESPN produces a list without much thought behind it.

Offline panthers30

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Re: 2012 media power rankings
« Reply #7: February 15, 2012, 02:52:28 PM »
I'm thinking they go with Randy Knoor - he's done a great job in the minors

Haha they actually mentioned him in the passage about us needing to groom a new manager after Davey.

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Re: 2012 media power rankings
« Reply #8: February 15, 2012, 02:53:34 PM »
Apparently addin prince makes the tigers worse over the next 5 years?

Offline wpa2629

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Re: 2012 media power rankings
« Reply #9: February 15, 2012, 03:06:05 PM »
Apparently addin prince makes the tigers worse over the next 5 years?

Tigers have a lot of huge contracts that could really be a problem for them down the line

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Re: 2012 media power rankings
« Reply #10: February 15, 2012, 03:07:43 PM »
Haha they actually mentioned him in the passage about us needing to groom a new manager after Davey.

:)

His name has otherwise been bandied around quite a bit by the locals

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Re: 2012 media power rankings
« Reply #11: February 15, 2012, 03:14:58 PM »
Tigers have a lot of huge contracts that could really be a problem for them down the line

in the words of MDS- won't someone think of the 2015 budget

Offline wpa2629

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Re: 2012 media power rankings
« Reply #12: February 15, 2012, 03:19:18 PM »
in the words of MDS- won't someone think of the 2015 budget

I read a really good article about the long term implications of their current contracts. It was really interesting. I'll see if I can find it.

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Offline aussienatsfan

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Re: 2012 media power rankings
« Reply #14: February 15, 2012, 06:23:02 PM »
We will be better than the Braves, we are now about level with pitching, and i think our (still mediocre hitting) is better than theirs.

Offline zimm_da_kid

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Re: 2012 media power rankings
« Reply #15: February 15, 2012, 06:26:05 PM »
We will be better than the Braves, we are now about level with pitching, and i think our (still mediocre hitting) is better than theirs.

i do think the braves are overrated

Offline UMDNats

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Re: 2012 media power rankings
« Reply #16: February 15, 2012, 06:28:14 PM »
1. Kilgore
2. Zuckerman
3. Ladson
4. Comak (just too new, but she's a fast-riser here)

Offline zimm_da_kid

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Re: 2012 media power rankings
« Reply #17: February 15, 2012, 06:30:03 PM »
mitch williams thinks we are going to be the team to stick up there with the phillies

Offline wpa2629

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Re: 2012 media power rankings
« Reply #18: February 15, 2012, 06:30:20 PM »
1. Kilgore
2. Zuckerman
3. Ladson
4. Comak (just too new, but she's a fast-riser here)

:thumbs:

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Offline zimm_da_kid

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Re: 2012 media power rankings
« Reply #19: February 15, 2012, 06:31:19 PM »
jerry hairston says that in 2-3 years people will say wilson ramos is the best catcher in the game. 

Offline zimm_da_kid

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Re: 2012 media power rankings
« Reply #20: February 15, 2012, 06:34:13 PM »
DAVE VALLE AND MITCH WILLIAMS BOTH THINK THAT THE NATS WILL WIN THE WILD CARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Offline aussienatsfan

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Re: 2012 media power rankings
« Reply #21: February 15, 2012, 06:36:21 PM »
i'm excited and optiimistic about the upcoming season, but as for what we will do, i have no idea.

so many question marks.

Was Morse's first full season as a starter a fluke?
can La Roche be even an average first baseman?
will Harper play and be productive? or will it be a lot of learning on the job and glimpses of hope?
Can werth improve his BA to around .265 and hit for power and take walks rather than striking out a zillion times?
Is Desmond the player we saw in the last 6 weeks hitting leadoff? or is he the below average SS who hit around .225  for most of the season with no power or walks.
This is before we discuss the pitching.


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Re: 2012 media power rankings
« Reply #22: February 15, 2012, 06:37:28 PM »
DAVE VALLE AND MITCH WILLIAMS BOTH THINK THAT THE NATS WILL WIN THE WILD CARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

are they on now?

Offline Coladar

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Re: 2012 media power rankings
« Reply #23: February 16, 2012, 07:22:13 AM »
Nothing to comment on on the Nats, since it's A. A reasonable ranking and B. As they admit, is totally up in the air and dependent on basically two key players seasons this year to set the tone for the next five plus.

But... Hahahaha to the Orioles ranking 30. Dead freaking last. Hahah. Hilarious. Just goes to show what a freaked up joke that organization has become that they can be ranked worse than even the Pirates or Royals, or similar do nothing, budgets of nil to none, perineal loser teams. It truly warms my heart to think and see others anticipating that the Orioles future looks even worse than what they've endured thus far, and are a team headed nowhere except losersville. Couldn't happen to a nicer owner, and partial fan-base, who stopped my city from having a team during my childhood, and thus left me and so many others to grow up without MLB. Karma is truly a nag, ain't it, Petey? Of course, it's Angelos' unwillingness to spend or do anything that caused that ranking, so I guess if being such a national joke bothered him, the team wouldn't be where it is, and thus he likely could care less the O's are perceived as having the worst future out of all 30 MLB teams.

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Re: 2012 media power rankings
« Reply #24: February 16, 2012, 09:11:18 AM »
We will be better than the Braves, we are now about level with pitching, and i think our (still mediocre hitting) is better than theirs.

Our pitching is better. Hanson is hurt, Hudson and Jurrens are good, Beachy is ok, who is there 4th starter? I'd definitely take Strasburg, Zimm-nn, Gio and Jackson over their top 4. The bullpens are comparable.

Our offenses are similar -- a lot of "ifs" if Uggla/Werth rebound; If Freeman/Espinosa/Ramos develop farther. McCann is one of the best, Zimmerman is our McCann, Ramos could be. Both teams need better production from Short. Will Chipper be good for one more year?