Author Topic: WP: Nats MASN deal renegotations will have a huge impact  (Read 108983 times)

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Offline DPMOmaha

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If this thing goes in the Nats favor, or mostly in the Nats favor, or maybe even just partially in the Nats favor, is that expected to be the death knell for MASN?

Online HalfSmokes

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Depends on if Angelos wants it to be- he can have masn renegotiate the matching provision with the Os.

Offline Slateman

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NY Appellate Court rules Nationals rights fees should be determined by MLB's RSDC, not in outside arbitration, as Orioles had hoped.

That's a win for Nationals. RSDC originally ruled Nats should get nearly $300 mil in TV rights from 2013-16.

So the Nats and O's will now have old rights fees ('12-'16) and new ('17-'21) handled by MLB RSDC, composed of three owners/execs.

http://washington.cbslocal.com/2017/07/13/nationals-get-huge-legal-victory-in-tv-rights-dispute-with-orioles/


BOOM

Online Natsinpwc

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Good news.

And Angelos sucks.

Offline monkeyhit

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Good, now spend!

Offline Dave301

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Looks like the O's can still appeal to the New York Court of Appeals, which is the highest appellate court, because the vote was 3-2.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/nationals-journal/wp/2017/07/13/ruling-in-masn-dispute-with-orioles-goes-the-nationals-way/?utm_term=.7f46c72cf953




Online Natsinpwc

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Looks like the O's can still appeal to the New York Court of Appeals, which is the highest appellate court, because the vote was 3-2.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/nationals-journal/wp/2017/07/13/ruling-in-masn-dispute-with-orioles-goes-the-nationals-way/?utm_term=.7f46c72cf953
The only ones benefiting are the lawyers.

Offline MarquisDeSade

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If this thing goes in the Nats favor, or mostly in the Nats favor, or maybe even just partially in the Nats favor, is that expected to be the death knell for MASN?

They missed their chance with the RSN bubble. 

Offline DPMOmaha

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They missed their chance with the RSN bubble. 
That wasn't the question.

Offline MarquisDeSade

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That wasn't the question.

It might kill MASN but this is going to continue to get dragged out so even if it does it'll take a long while.

Offline Minty Fresh

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It might kill MASN but this is going to continue to get dragged out so even if it does it'll take a long while.

And our boys aren't getting their own RSN at this point.

Baseball is a dying sport.

Online HalfSmokes

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correct me if I'm wrong, but if MASN dies, I though their share of the Nats rights would be auctioned in Bankruptcy not revert to the Nats

Offline MarquisDeSade

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correct me if I'm wrong, but if MASN dies, I though their share of the Nats rights would be auctioned in Bankruptcy not revert to the Nats

That's my understanding as well.  The problem will be determining what those rights are worth by the time that happens in 2031. 

Offline aspenbubba

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And WTF happens if MASN goes off the air or bankrupt? I just want to see Nats baseball for 6 months.

Online HalfSmokes

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someone will air the games- they're too valuable not to air, we'll just go though the price readjust fights with Comcast instead of angelos, then again, maybe lerner will buy the rights- an RSN not affiliated with an owner would be slightly insane to buy rights whose get determined by three of the owner's buddies every few years

Offline Mattionals

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How many customers get alienated if the Nats go internet only? I know many, including myself, have ditched cable altogether.

Offline DPMOmaha

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How many customers get alienated if the Nats go internet only? I know many, including myself, have ditched cable altogether.
Short term, probably a bunch. Long term, it'd be a rather progressive move, I think.

Offline nfotiu

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How many customers get alienated if the Nats go internet only? I know many, including myself, have ditched cable altogether.
And they don't mind alienated us, since they are about the only team that doesn't provide a non-cable/dish option.

Offline nfotiu

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And our boys aren't getting their own RSN at this point.

Baseball is a dying sport.

Baseball is doing pretty well.   RSNs are a dying business is the much bigger problem.

Online mitlen

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How many customers get alienated if the Nats go internet only? I know many, including myself, have ditched cable altogether.

As long as I don't have to buy a new phone.     :old:

Offline DPMOmaha

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Interesting to compare the Post story with the Baltimore Sun's.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/business/bs-bz-masn-appeal-20170713-story.html

Offline hotshot

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Dang, does this legal battle have any end? Appeal after appeal, year after year, and still no resolution!! What a system.

Offline awbb

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Dang, does this legal battle have any end? Appeal after appeal, year after year, and still no resolution!! What a system.

It's designed by lawyers for lawyers.

Offline Ray D

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If this thing goes in the Nats favor, or mostly in the Nats favor, or maybe even just partially in the Nats favor, is that expected to be the death knell for MASN?

If that's the only result of all this, it's good enough for me.