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Re: The Weather (2012)
« Reply #1025: December 24, 2012, 01:12:17 AM »
Wind map for Tuesday, it's going to be very ugly for LA/MS.  These are the kinds of things you normally see in the spring that cause widespread massive thunderstorms and tornados.


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Re: The Weather (2012)
« Reply #1026: December 24, 2012, 10:16:28 AM »
Imref  - what's it showing for 12/31 - 1/2 on the east coast?  It's early, but I'm trying to figure out the best day to drive back.

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« Reply #1027: December 25, 2012, 01:21:56 AM »
JCA - still too early for the 12/31-1/1 window, last I saw the models showed a good chance of a nor'easter though.

here's the snow/ice map for wed-thurs from wxrisk.com:


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Re: The Weather (2012)
« Reply #1028: December 25, 2012, 08:54:38 AM »
Got about 2 inches of snow here yesterday. Nothing serious, but made driving to work interesting.

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Re: The Weather (2012)
« Reply #1029: December 25, 2012, 09:16:53 AM »
I left Friday from gulfport from tech school. Looks like I got out of there just in time. I know a couple people who stayed during Christmas exodus, so hopefully nothing major happens down there.

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Re: The Weather (2012)
« Reply #1030: December 25, 2012, 05:27:00 PM »
JCA - still too early for the 12/31-1/1 window, last I saw the models showed a good chance of a nor'easter though.

here's the snow/ice map for wed-thurs from wxrisk.com:

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thanks.   Looks like i'm not going to stay overnight in Amherst, Ma wednesday.

Re: The Weather (2012)
« Reply #1031: December 25, 2012, 05:29:29 PM »
I remember back in the 80s Northern Virginia would get clobbered with snow. Now... pffft.

freak Global Warming and the crapheads that cast it off as a joke.

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Re: The Weather (2012)
« Reply #1032: December 25, 2012, 08:15:56 PM »
I remember back in the 80s Northern Virginia would get clobbered with snow. Now... pffft.

freak Global Warming and the crapheads that cast it off as a joke.

2009-2010 ring a bell?

Re: The Weather (2012)
« Reply #1033: December 25, 2012, 08:22:15 PM »
2009-2010 ring a bell?

An ape throwing crap will hit the side of a barn once in awhile.

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Re: The Weather (2012)
« Reply #1034: December 25, 2012, 10:25:36 PM »
An ape throwing crap will hit the side of a barn once in awhile.


How many years in the 80s had a ton of snow?  7 years over 10 inches total in the 80s, 6 in the 90s, 6 in the 00s, and 1 in the 10s so far.

The following identifies 2 major snow storms in the 80s, 3 in the 90s, and 3 since 2000:  http://www.erh.noaa.gov/lwx/winter/DC-Winters.htm

I grew up here and it's pretty much the same as it's always been if not a bit more snowy these days.

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Re: The Weather (2012)
« Reply #1035: December 26, 2012, 12:00:00 AM »
Hey Smithian, hope you were safe today.  Lots of intense weather in your area, as I understand it.

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« Reply #1036: December 26, 2012, 12:36:12 AM »
How many years in the 80s had a ton of snow?  7 years over 10 inches total in the 80s, 6 in the 90s, 6 in the 00s, and 1 in the 10s so far.

The following identifies 2 major snow storms in the 80s, 3 in the 90s, and 3 since 2000:  http://www.erh.noaa.gov/lwx/winter/DC-Winters.htm

I grew up here and it's pretty much the same as it's always been if not a bit more snowy these days.


warming should actually increase the chance of big snow storms by pumping more moisture into the air, but over time there will be less events.

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« Reply #1037: December 26, 2012, 08:57:57 AM »
People who dismiss global warming might as well join the Flat-Earth society.  There's no denying the Earth is warmer than it was 50 years ago. 

You can debate the causes if you want to, but denying the Earth is warmer is idiocy.

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Re: The Weather (2012)
« Reply #1038: December 26, 2012, 09:04:02 AM »
How about this for an almost-White-Christmas? Snow this morning...a few stray flakes (at  least in south Arlington) Monday afternoon...but nothing on Christmas proper.

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Re: The Weather (2012)
« Reply #1039: December 26, 2012, 12:29:11 PM »
We had snow Xmas Eve enough for the ground top be white the next day and is snowing again today.  Supposedly 1" but there's already more than that.

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« Reply #1040: December 26, 2012, 12:47:54 PM »
People who dismiss global warming might as well join the Flat-Earth society.  There's no denying the Earth is warmer than it was 50 years ago. 

You can debate the causes if you want to, but denying the Earth is warmer is idiocy.

And this is also the first time Global Warming has ever happened too :smh:

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« Reply #1042: December 26, 2012, 01:01:47 PM »
And this is also the first time Global Warming has ever happened too :smh:

it's the first time it's ever happened without a corresponding natural phenomena.  There haven't been any orbital changes, changes in solar output, or any other natural events that have caused past warming.  The only correlating factor is rising atmospheric CO2.

There's a simple way to dismiss global warming as a result of man-made activities:
1. Prove the planet isn't warming (all the data says it is)

Or:
1. Prove that CO2 isn't a greenhouse gas (we've known for 100 years that it is)
2. Prove that atmospheric CO2 isn't rising (it is)
3. Prove that rising CO2 isn't the result of human activity (we know that it is from isotope analysis)


Minty is right, we have more scientific evidence of warming from human activities than we do for many other well-adopted theories.

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Re: The Weather (2012)
« Reply #1043: December 26, 2012, 01:20:53 PM »
Kill your car and kill yourself.

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« Reply #1044: December 26, 2012, 01:26:17 PM »
And this is also the first time Global Warming has ever happened too :smh:

I said you can debate the causes if you'd like, but there's no denying the Earth is warmer now than it has been over the past 150 years - at least you can't deny it unless you've been eating lead paint.

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Re: The Weather (2012)
« Reply #1045: December 26, 2012, 02:01:38 PM »
I said you can debate the causes if you'd like, but there's no denying the Earth is warmer now than it has been over the past 150 years - at least you can't deny it unless you've been eating lead paint.

Never said it wasn't. But let's not pretend that this isn't a cyclical (sp?) event. How much of the earth was covered with ice/snow 10,000 years ago? Has our emissions spead up the process? I have no doubt, but like I said, this isn't a new phenominom.

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Re: The Weather (2012)
« Reply #1046: December 26, 2012, 02:06:24 PM »
Never said it wasn't. But let's not pretend that this isn't a cyclical (sp?) event. How much of the earth was covered with ice/snow 10,000 years ago? Has our emissions spead up the process? I have no doubt, but like I said, this isn't a new phenominom.

which is great, but the agriculture needed to maintain modern society doesn't work in an ice age- we'll see about a period of warming

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Re: The Weather (2012)
« Reply #1047: December 26, 2012, 02:07:15 PM »
Never said it wasn't. But let's not pretend that this isn't a cyclical (sp?) event. How much of the earth was covered with ice/snow 10,000 years ago? Has our emissions spead up the process? I have no doubt, but like I said, this isn't a new phenominom.

We're due to enter another phase - an ice age.  We should be through the warm phase, headed colder for the next 100,000 years. 

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Re: The Weather (2012)
« Reply #1048: December 26, 2012, 02:24:41 PM »
Never said it wasn't. But let's not pretend that this isn't a cyclical (sp?) event. How much of the earth was covered with ice/snow 10,000 years ago? Has our emissions spead up the process? I have no doubt, but like I said, this isn't a new phenominom.

And did I say it wasn't cyclical?  I left my personal opinion out of it and hitched my PoV for that particular point on the stats (I should think terp and JCA would be proud of me... :lol:  ).  I was simply refuting the new guy's claim that global warming was a "myth."

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« Reply #1049: December 26, 2012, 03:52:36 PM »
And did I say it wasn't cyclical?  I left my personal opinion out of it and hitched my PoV for that particular point on the stats (I should think terp and JCA would be proud of me... :lol:  ).  I was simply refuting the new guy's claim that global warming was a "myth."

Oh... I got ya. ;)