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Re: Pujols to Angels, 10 yrs, $250-260M
« Reply #25: December 08, 2011, 10:46:42 AM »
So after Wilson, what else of significance is left on the market?  Oswalt (who we supposedly aren't going after) aaaaand.....  ???


http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/10/2012-top-50-free-agents-1.html

of their top 50, aside from Wilson, the best available are

2. Prince

5. Yu

6. Jackson (they have Buehrle at 12)

7. Rollins

8. AmRam

9. Beltran



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« Reply #26: December 08, 2011, 10:48:33 AM »
Oh right, duh :doh:

Not that Rizzo is looking at either of them.

I don't really believe anything that Rizzo says.

I wonder if the Angels can really afford Wilson after that. If not, his price comes down, right? How could we not have interest if five years would get it done?

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« Reply #27: December 08, 2011, 10:48:38 AM »
So after Wilson, what else of significance is left on the market?  Oswalt (who we supposedly aren't going after) aaaaand.....  ???
We get the crap that's left over. Oft-injured, ill-mannered, wants to retire, Roy Oswalt. I doubt he even signs with the Nats. Doesn't seem like the right fit for him. I'd imagine he'd want to go somewhere to win a World Series. Texas makes sense.

Who are we left with? Basically no one of consequence. We are stuck with the same thing as last year. I guess we just have to hope that Pea**** turns into another JZ and that Detwiler finally puts it all together.

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Re: Pujols to Angels, 10 yrs, $250-260M
« Reply #28: December 08, 2011, 10:49:29 AM »
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/10/2012-top-50-free-agents-1.html

of their top 50, aside from Wilson, the best available are

2. Prince

5. Yu

6. Jackson (they have Buehrle at 12)

7. Rollins

8. AmRam

9. Beltran




To save this offseason we pretty much need to make huge splash signings and get Cespedes and Darvish.

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Re: Pujols to Angels, 10 yrs, $250-260M
« Reply #29: December 08, 2011, 10:56:33 AM »
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/10/2012-top-50-free-agents-1.html

of their top 50, aside from Wilson, the best available are

2. Prince

5. Yu

6. Jackson (they have Buehrle at 12)

7. Rollins

8. AmRam

9. Beltran


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Re: Pujols to Angels, 10 yrs, $250-260M
« Reply #30: December 08, 2011, 10:57:45 AM »
when did that happen?

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Re: Pujols to Angels, 10 yrs, $250-260M
« Reply #31: December 08, 2011, 11:00:15 AM »
when did that happen?

Yesterday, early in the morning.

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Re: Pujols to Angels, 10 yrs, $250-260M
« Reply #32: December 08, 2011, 11:00:43 AM »
poor Bob Carpenter.  His favorite player of his favorite team just left "the greatest baseball city in the world everrrrrrrrrr"

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« Reply #33: December 08, 2011, 11:22:27 AM »
Gotta admit, Im shocked the Angels added both. Definitely make it more interesting to go watch games, with the stadium only 10 minutes away. Always favored them over the Dodgers. Glad they've cemented themselves ahead of them for the next 5 years, atleast.

But, this move does open up a couple other pieces. There were some talks about Ervin Santana being moved if Wilson is acquired, but I say they keep him. Weaver, Wilson, Haren, and Santana along with Pujols in the middle of the lineup looks hard to beat. But they still have Trumbo and Morales they could move now, as well as Bourjos and Abreu. Id expect Abreu to be given away and the Angels paying some of his contract.

Someone may try and get Morales at a cheaper price, as an alternative to Fielder. More risk because of the injury, but its one that could pay off pretty big.

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Re: Pujols to Angels, 10 yrs, $250-260M
« Reply #34: December 08, 2011, 11:23:32 AM »
Someone may try and get Morales at a cheaper price, as an alternative to Fielder. More risk because of the injury, but its one that could pay off pretty big.

Any news as to why it's taken him a year and a half to recover from a broken ankle?

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« Reply #35: December 08, 2011, 11:25:19 AM »
That rotation is insane if Wilson can repeat his success.

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« Reply #36: December 08, 2011, 11:30:33 AM »
Any news as to why it's taken him a year and a half to recover from a broken ankle?


I thought it was just that he was slow to heal. Scar tissue developed in there and he had a procedure in the middle of the season to clean it up.

I know people are always optimistic, but in the spring last year, they kept saying he was close to being b ack, and was dropping bombs in BP. It was just a problem of running the bases and stepping on the bag. It was painful moving around, so they didnt want to get him back out there until that was gone. Obviously it kept going and the second surgery to clean it up was needed.

I think people are a lot more positive and realistic about him this year. He really should be ready to go by spring this season. Hes actually a guy I wouldnt mind trying to get if we can. The upside is ridiculous, and hes in his prime.

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Re: Pujols to Angels, 10 yrs, $250-260M
« Reply #37: December 08, 2011, 11:30:47 AM »
Any news as to why it's taken him a year and a half to recover from a broken ankle?


they botched the surgery

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Re: Pujols to Angels, 10 yrs, $250-260M
« Reply #38: December 08, 2011, 11:46:37 AM »
I thought it was just that he was slow to heal. Scar tissue developed in there and he had a procedure in the middle of the season to clean it up.

I know people are always optimistic, but in the spring last year, they kept saying he was close to being b ack, and was dropping bombs in BP. It was just a problem of running the bases and stepping on the bag. It was painful moving around, so they didnt want to get him back out there until that was gone. Obviously it kept going and the second surgery to clean it up was needed.

I think people are a lot more positive and realistic about him this year. He really should be ready to go by spring this season. Hes actually a guy I wouldnt mind trying to get if we can. The upside is ridiculous, and hes in his prime.

Wouldn't he fit in as the Angels DH?

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Re: Pujols to Angels, 10 yrs, $250-260M
« Reply #39: December 08, 2011, 12:12:00 PM »
Abreu really interests me for the Nats, especially at a discount.  He's your leadoff hitter and LF if he comes here.  Morse can chill in right until LaRoche is moved, and Werth can play CF.  LaRoche gets moved, Harper up and Morse to first.

Kendry is scary good when healthy, but I figure the Angels can hold him for a while to DH.  They still would have Wells, Hunter, Bourjos, and Trout, so they could go with Trout - Bourjos - Hunter in the OF, Pujols at 1st, Wells DH until Morales is healthy.  Trumbo does look like an extra piece.

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« Reply #40: December 08, 2011, 12:26:56 PM »
Wouldn't he fit in as the Angels DH?

Absolutely. And unless they get a great trade offer, I think he's such a good value they keep him and take the gamble. I dont know what his contract status is, admittedly. But he earned just under $3mill last year.

The problems with the Angels and DH, is that along with Morales, they also have last year's rookie 1b, Mark Trumbo. They've talked about Trumbo at 3b, but he's lumbering as a 1b, so I dont know about that. But they also have 5 outfielders returning in Vernon Wells, Torii Hunter, Peter Bourjos, Bobby Abreu(last years DH) and Mike Trout.

So the Angels have a lot of decisions to make. Trumbo, Morales, and Bourjos could be decent trade chips to further upgrade their team. An interesting move would be Bourjos, Jean Segura, Garrett Richards and something else for David Wright, if the Mets do decide they have to move him.

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« Reply #41: December 08, 2011, 12:28:55 PM »
That's a crap load of talent for a declining Wright.

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« Reply #42: December 08, 2011, 12:29:11 PM »
Abreu really interests me for the Nats, especially at a discount.  He's your leadoff hitter and LF if he comes here.  Morse can chill in right until LaRoche is moved, and Werth can play CF.  LaRoche gets moved, Harper up and Morse to first.

Kendry is scary good when healthy, but I figure the Angels can hold him for a while to DH.  They still would have Wells, Hunter, Bourjos, and Trout, so they could go with Trout - Bourjos - Hunter in the OF, Pujols at 1st, Wells DH until Morales is healthy.  Trumbo does look like an extra piece.

I too would be interested in Abreu. He's only got one year left, so he's a solid bridge until Harper/Hood are good to go.  The Angels would probably pay part of his salary too, just to get rid of him and clear up the lineup.

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« Reply #43: December 08, 2011, 12:30:45 PM »
That's a crap load of talent for a declining Wright.

I was just throwing something out there to mention they still could make some moves. I have no idea what it would take. I just think a deal centered around Bourjos would make sense for both sides.

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« Reply #44: December 08, 2011, 12:33:38 PM »
I was just throwing something out there to mention they still could make some moves. I have no idea what it would take. I just think a deal centered around Bourjos would make sense for both sides.

That makes sense. I see Richard as their next front of rotation starter.

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Re: Pujols to Angels, 10 yrs, $250-260M
« Reply #45: December 08, 2011, 12:58:39 PM »
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Pujols received ten years and around $255MM from the Angels, but Bob Nightengale of USA Today says the Marlins offered ten years and $275MM.  He says that with incentives and Florida's lack of a state income tax, the deal could have been worth nearly $300MM.

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« Reply #47: December 08, 2011, 01:09:09 PM »
So Cal better than South Fl

Especially in the summer.  That can't even be close.

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Re: Pujols to Angels, 10 yrs, $250-260M
« Reply #48: December 08, 2011, 02:48:24 PM »
Pujols will remain healthier and put up better numbers where he can DH. Just factoring in his legacy considerations, he had to see LA as a better opportunity. Then he has the media market for extra cash and better chances for rings.

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Re: Pujols to Angels, 10 yrs, $250-260M
« Reply #49: December 08, 2011, 02:55:22 PM »
Good fit for the angels.