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Offline houston-nat

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Re: 2012 MLB Draft
« Reply #475: June 04, 2012, 09:09:18 PM »
And honestly, if Giolito needs Tommy John now, that's much better than if he needs it 5 years from now. I feel like quite a few prominent pitchers had TJS at the very beginnings of their careers. Mariano Rivera tore his UCL before reaching the Yankees.

Plus this:

The chance to be in the same rotation as Stephen Strasburg and on the same team as Bryce Harper has'd to account for some sort of discount.

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« Reply #476: June 04, 2012, 09:09:55 PM »
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#Nationals only have $4.4 mil budget. Will be interesting what Giolito signs for. Huge upside, but I'd hate to lose a 1st-rd pick. #mlbdraft

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« Reply #477: June 04, 2012, 09:11:00 PM »
No way they took him without looking at the medicals from Dr. Yocum who Giolito went to and who performed TJ on Stras & ZimNN. 

I love the pick and the risk.

They also looked at the medicals on Solis and told him to rehab.

Just make him have the surgery and bite the bullet now.

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« Reply #478: June 04, 2012, 09:11:10 PM »
great day in natstown.  we get giolito and the mets lose.

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Re: 2012 MLB Draft
« Reply #479: June 04, 2012, 09:11:26 PM »
so no "follow the prospect" thread yet?

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« Reply #480: June 04, 2012, 09:12:21 PM »
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"Giolito compares to Lackey--big kid, power pitcher w/ great leverage, power curve & excellent feel on changeup," -Kris Kline, Scouting Dir.

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Re: 2012 MLB Draft
« Reply #481: June 04, 2012, 09:12:41 PM »
so no "follow the prospect" thread yet?

He's not a prospect yet :P


And honestly, if Giolito needs Tommy John now, that's much better than if he needs it 5 years from now. I feel like quite a few prominent pitchers had TJS at the very beginnings of their careers. Mariano Rivera tore his UCL before reaching the Yankees.

Plus this:


"Hey kid, here's your slot $2MM (or whatever it is).  Sign now, we'll get your elbow fixed up, and get you on your way to be on one of the best rotations in baseball."

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Re: 2012 MLB Draft
« Reply #482: June 04, 2012, 09:14:06 PM »
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Giolito established himself as the nation's premier prep prospect long ago, and by the fall and winter of his senior year many scouts were clamoring that he could be the best high school righthander in draft history. He came out of the chute in December and January throwing 95-99 mph and showing off a long-toss regimen that "makes Trevor Bauer's long toss look like kid stuff," in the words of one scout. He pitched between 92-99 through February, sitting comfortably at 94-96.

Then he sprained his ulnar collateral ligament in his elbow in early March, ending his season and turning him into something of a wild card for the draft. Doctors worked with him on strengthening target areas during his rehabilitation, and he started throwing on flat ground by early May, with a plan to start throwing from 90 and 120 feet in the weeks leading up to the draft.

The son of Hollywood actor/producer Rick Giolito, Lucas is expected to require a hefty bonus to sign him away from a commitment to UCLA, and a team will likely have to take him in the top 10 picks to have a chance to sign him under the new draft rules.

His talent certainly merits that kind of investment; he has true No. 1 starter upside, with a premium fastball, a plus-plus curveball in the 82-86 range with depth and bite, and even a plus changeup at 82-84 that gives him a third swing-and-miss offering. Scouts are in love with his 6-foot-6 frame and easy delivery. He a tireless worker with a tenacious approach on the mound and a similar approach to his between-starts work. His injury may create a bit of risk, but the potential reward he offers is unparalleled in this draft.

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« Reply #483: June 04, 2012, 09:14:22 PM »
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Love that pick. #nats

Law is right per usual.

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Re: 2012 MLB Draft
« Reply #484: June 04, 2012, 09:14:40 PM »


lackey?  really?  that's the best comp he could think of?  I was thinking more verlander with the big body, plus-plus heater, and nasty curve

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« Reply #485: June 04, 2012, 09:15:31 PM »
lackey?  really?  that's the best comp he could think of?  I was thinking more verlander with the big body, plus-plus heater, and nasty curve

I was thinking Cy Young with the Cy Young awards and stuff.

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« Reply #486: June 04, 2012, 09:15:44 PM »
Law is right per usual.

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Love me some KLaw!


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« Reply #487: June 04, 2012, 09:16:57 PM »
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"This is the type of player, the type of ceiling, & the type of stuff we want in this organization," - Rizzo on Giolito

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« Reply #488: June 04, 2012, 09:17:03 PM »
so no "follow the prospect" thread yet?

i'm sure MDS will start one and talk about how he's not as good as the marlins pick 8)

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Re: 2012 MLB Draft
« Reply #489: June 04, 2012, 09:17:18 PM »
I've been watching video of this kid: holy crap! How long is he injured for? Will he be able to pitch after he signs in July?

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« Reply #490: June 04, 2012, 09:17:23 PM »
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Giolito established himself as the nation's premier prep prospect long ago, and by the fall and winter of his senior year many scouts were clamoring that he could be the best high school righthander in draft history. He came out of the chute in December and January throwing 95-99 mph and showing off a long-toss regimen that "makes Trevor Bauer's long toss look like kid stuff," in the words of one scout. He pitched between 92-99 through February, sitting comfortably at 94-96.


:shock:  he makes 400 ft. long toss look like kid stuff?  holy crap

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« Reply #491: June 04, 2012, 09:18:15 PM »
Really excited we loose AJ Cole...Rizzo replaces him with Gioloto next wave of Nats pitchers is Purke, Meyer, Gioloto, Ray & Solis we're going to be scary for a long time.

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« Reply #492: June 04, 2012, 09:18:59 PM »
so no "follow the prospect" thread yet?

I started one. I haven't done one yet, so this will be fun.

Hope I didn't break any forum rules by jumping in and creating the thread. There's not a "Who's up for the next follow the prospects" thread, is there? :lol: Hopefully not taboo to start it before they sign.

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« Reply #493: June 04, 2012, 09:19:41 PM »
lackey?  really?  that's the best comp he could think of?  I was thinking more verlander with the big body, plus-plus heater, and nasty curve

He said he models his pitching style after Verlander, which is a pretty good sign.

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« Reply #494: June 04, 2012, 09:20:54 PM »
kline's old team selects sims.  of course

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« Reply #495: June 04, 2012, 09:21:11 PM »
Physically speaking, Lackey jumped into my head as well. Physically, as in body type. Big, burly type of dude.

Giolito probably has better stuff than Lackey right now(if healthy). Definitely a lot more upside than just a John Lackey.

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« Reply #496: June 04, 2012, 09:22:10 PM »
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Roy Clark said Lucas Giolito's comparison might be Roy Halladay when everything's 100 percent. "So, we'll take that."

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« Reply #497: June 04, 2012, 09:23:18 PM »
Brian Oliver ‏@NFA_Brian
change way they approach 2-10? No, not at all. We have straegy, done our work about signability

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« Reply #498: June 04, 2012, 09:23:29 PM »
Amanda Comak ‏@acomak
Roy Clark said Lucas Giolito's comparison might be Roy Halladay when everything's 100 percent. "So, we'll take that."

except gio throws 100 mph.  i'm really excited

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« Reply #499: June 04, 2012, 09:25:59 PM »
Adam Kilgore@AdamKilgoreWP  Giolito has worked with doctors at the Jobe Clinic, where both Strasburg and Zimmermann had TJ. Familiarity with docs made Nats comfortable.