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Offline Smithian

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thanks for the update comish.  should def be fairfax imo.
Isn't Fairfax really expensive? That may be an issue trying to put it there.

When they built Arvest Ballpark for the Northwest Arkansas Naturals they put it off in a secluded area about 5 minutes off the highway and the main road. It is a few minutes from any restaurants or anything, but property prices are pretty low.

Btw, coolest minor league park is the Frisco RoughRiders. If new P-Nats park is half as cool it'd be great;



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Isn't Fairfax really expensive? That may be an issue trying to put it there.


Yes.

LOL at Fairfax or Vienna. I'm not sure where you could even put it and traffic is a nightmare without a sporting event. I'm in Oakton and I'm not sure I would want to deal with it.

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If your in Moco you can catch them when they play Frederick.  I doubt they would go outside VA.    Near Westfields and Chantilly would be great! 

Although 28 could be a nightmare.  Face it.  Traffic in this area is bad enough everywhere.  So ANYWHERE you go will be a problem.  Lower FFX is also a problem with the BRAC moves to Belvoir.

Being in Manassas I like the location!  I still dont get to many games due to my Nats schedule!

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Isn't that what I said?

No crap; I was responding to Coladar. :crazy:

LOL at Fairfax or Vienna. I'm not sure where you could even put it and traffic is a nightmare without a sporting event. I'm in Oakton and I'm not sure I would want to deal with it.

Traffic for level A minor league baseball? GTFO.

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No crap; I was responding to Coladar. :crazy:

If you don't quote someone, no one is going to know who you're talking to and assume it's the post above yours.

Traffic for level A minor league baseball?

There is existing traffic that no one is going to want to deal with. And yeah... a minor league team will bring some additional traffic.

(Edit: To clarify, I was thinking of the small roads in Vienna stemming off of 123. These all get ridiculously backed up from normal rush hour and if there was an event they would be affected by a couple more hundred cars on the road or whatever)

And please tell me where there's space in Vienna for a minor league stadium.

GTFO.

Stop being a dick.

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Aren't the PNats now out by the fairgrounds near Manassas Park?

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If you don't quote someone, no one is going to know who you're talking to and assume it's the post above yours.

Ok, but I did quote Coladar?  :shrug:

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There is existing traffic that no one is going to want to deal with. And yeah... a minor league team will bring some additional traffic.


Eh, I live near the Bay Sox stadium and it's really not that bad, and that's for AA.

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The United are desperate for a new stadium, maybe they could build a mixed use park at the Landmark Mall site, that would be sweet.

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I thought the Springfield Mall since it is bankrupt and nearly empty.  Also closer to the Metro.

Another sort of off the wall idea would be for Falls Church to allow development over 66 near EFC (or WFC) metro station where the Silver line hits the orange line.

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I thought the Springfield Mall since it is bankrupt and nearly empty.  Also closer to the Metro.

Another sort of off the wall idea would be for Falls Church to allow development over 66 near EFC (or WFC) metro station where the Silver line hits the orange line.


Springfield or Falls Church would work for me.  Somewhere on Columbia Pike near one of the trolley stops would be good too.

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yes.  I wasn't sure what the status of the trolleys is, but along a street car line on columbia pike would work.

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The trolley line is projected to be running in 2016 which wouldn't be that far behind a stadium being built.  Sure would be nice to see Columbia Pike turn into Wilson Blvd.

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Is the courtyard in the pentagon big enough for a diamond?   It has this great parking lot, lots of commuter options, and if DoD is going to take a whack in any budget deal, then it will have some unused space there.

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I thought the Springfield Mall since it is bankrupt and nearly empty.  Also closer to the Metro.


Solid idea.

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Not sure about that location but the whole corridor is full of neighborhoods that are aging badly and ready for redevelopment.

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Is the courtyard in the pentagon big enough for a diamond?   It has this great parking lot, lots of commuter options, and if DoD is going to take a whack in any budget deal, then it will have some unused space there.

It's not big enough, unfortunately.  I assume you mean the size of the parking lot and not most of the non-GS-15/SES spot locations.  Remember - not all of us are big baller shotcallers like you JCA.  :P

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There isnt enough parking at the Pentagon as it is!

I think the plan for Springfield Mall is to make it into a Reston Town Center type place.  So I dont think that is an option?

Also doesn't MLB have restrictions of radius between the minor and major league teams?

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There isnt enough parking at the Pentagon as it is!

I think the plan for Springfield Mall is to make it into a Reston Town Center type place.  So I dont think that is an option?

Also doesn't MLB have restrictions of radius between the minor and major league teams?

I think the grand plan to make Springfield Mall into a Town Center development lacks a solvent developer at this point.  There are not enough commitments to get financing.  The three anchors own their stores, so they are not moving.  You walk into the mall, and it is no more than half occupied at this point.  It's the only place where the Occupy movement would be welcome.  It's gotten so bad, there aren't even annoying people offering you "free sample" of Bourbon Chicken or Teriyaki Chicken or whatever they are calling that "meat" on a stick with sauce nowadays.

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The United are desperate for a new stadium, maybe they could build a mixed use park at the Landmark Mall site, that would be sweet.

It depends on if they are still delusional about public funds buying them a state of the art stadium or are just looking for somewhere to play, I still think the land where landmark or Springfield is would be out of united's budget

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It depends on if they are still delusional about public funds buying them a state of the art stadium or are just looking for somewhere to play, I still think the land where landmark or Springfield is would be out of united's budget

The United have an offer in hand for a free stadium in Baltimore and they've made it clear that they don't want to pay, so it's a pipe dream that they'd come to VA.  Screw'em if they move.

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It's gotten so bad, there aren't even annoying people offering you "free sample" of Bourbon Chicken or Teriyaki Chicken or whatever they are calling that "meat" on a stick with sauce nowadays.

When the Lids left a few years ago it was all over with.

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The United have an offer in hand for a free stadium in Baltimore and they've made it clear that they don't want to pay, so it's a pipe dream that they'd come to VA.  Screw'em if they move.

They have a completed feasibility study

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They have a completed feasibility study

You mean the spot across South Capital from Nats Park?  Sure would be nice to get a second stadium in the area but I don't see the city chipping in.

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You mean the spot across South Capital from Nats Park?  Sure would be nice to get a second stadium in the area but I don't see the city chipping in.
No I mean the state of MD, that's as far as they are with MD- I seriously doubt that balitimore's city government will actually spend the money to procure the site and build a soccer stadium during lean budget times.

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I seriously doubt that balitimore's city government will actually spend the money to procure the site and build a soccer stadium during lean budget times.

Yes, but you ignore the kick back and graft potential of those construction contracts.  I have faith in the B'more government not being so short sighted.