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Offline DPMOmaha

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Re: 2011 - 12 offseason for other teams
« Reply #325: December 02, 2011, 03:27:08 PM »
The Royals have fired Frank White from his announcing job because they thought he was too critical of the team. Dibble situation 2.0.

Except Dibble wasn't a legend for the Nats/Expos.  Behind George Brett, Frank White is the Kansas City Royals.

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« Reply #326: December 02, 2011, 03:41:52 PM »
Except Dibble wasn't a legend for the Nats/Expos.  Behind George Brett, Frank White is the Kansas City Royals.
He was also a good announcer and wasn't a douche like Dibble tended to be. I watched lots of Royals games, and I can't think of a single instance where he was unfairly critical of the Royals in any capacity.

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« Reply #327: December 02, 2011, 03:44:46 PM »
He was also a good announcer and wasn't a douche like Dibble tended to be. I watched lots of Royals games, and I can't think of a single instance where he was unfairly critical of the Royals in any capacity.

I'm wondering if it happened recently, maybe on one of their Winter Caravans, a local interview, perhaps.  Just speculating...

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Re: 2011 - 12 offseason for other teams
« Reply #328: December 02, 2011, 04:05:32 PM »
Heck, don't bother to hire him for MASN, sign him as a coach for the Nats.

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« Reply #329: December 02, 2011, 04:13:23 PM »
Heck, don't bother to hire him for MASN, sign him as a coach for the Nats.

I think Frank White was who drove Bill James into sabermetrics.

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Re: 2011 - 12 offseason for other teams
« Reply #330: December 02, 2011, 04:16:29 PM »
Not a favorite of James?

That's OK.  He can still work with the MIs on fielding and can help on base running.  I don't think Davey would go to crud being influenced by White on strategy.

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« Reply #331: December 02, 2011, 04:20:07 PM »
Not a favorite of James?

That's OK.  He can still work with the MIs on fielding and can help on base running.  I don't think Davey would go to crud being influenced by White on strategy.

allergic to walks. 

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« Reply #332: December 02, 2011, 05:03:43 PM »
Yes, allergic to walks, but given the era he played in, it was probably more of a team style than a principled objection.  It's kind of like Andre Dawson and Jim Rice not drawing walks.  It just was undervalued at the time.  Meanwhile, stats and eyeballs always had him as plus fielder, which James really did not credit in his early work but has come to recognize as having significant value.  His WAR on FG was over two (average) for most of the second half of his career, and he had a few nice years sprinkled in.

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Re: 2011 - 12 offseason for other teams
« Reply #333: December 02, 2011, 06:02:04 PM »
Capuano got $10 mil - that's silly.

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Re: 2011 - 12 offseason for other teams
« Reply #334: December 02, 2011, 09:10:12 PM »
LINC

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Re: 2011 - 12 offseason for other teams
« Reply #336: December 04, 2011, 10:49:07 PM »
Well, they just signed Jose Reyes.  One more person on that team who will probably own us...

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« Reply #337: December 04, 2011, 11:31:43 PM »
Well, they just signed Jose Reyes.  One more person on that team who will probably own us...

Kinda frustrating. We wait and wait while the organization attempts to build a winner and then the friggin fish put together a competitor in a matter of days.  :|

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Re: 2011 - 12 offseason for other teams
« Reply #338: December 05, 2011, 06:54:35 AM »
Kinda frustrating. We wait and wait while the organization attempts to build a winner and then the friggin fish put together a competitor in a matter of days.  :|

People will disagree with me on this but, as is pretty obvious from my posts, I don't really care - the Marlins, in terms of what's on their major league roster right now, are a better team than the Nationals.  You can point to Harper and this years draft and so on and so forth, but, in terms of what's on the major league roster today, the Marlins are the better team.  Everyone that thinks this is going to be some disastrous year in Little Havana should go ahead and get a big ol' bowl of Fook City soup ready to eat.

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« Reply #339: December 05, 2011, 09:07:00 AM »
People will disagree with me on this but, as is pretty obvious from my posts, I don't really care - the Marlins, in terms of what's on their major league roster right now, are a better team than the Nationals.  You can point to Harper and this years draft and so on and so forth, but, in terms of what's on the major league roster today, the Marlins are the better team.  Everyone that thinks this is going to be some disastrous year in Little Havana should go ahead and get a big ol' bowl of Fook City soup ready to eat.

I don't disagree with you. They are probably better at this point and they might actually get even better if they sign Pujols or Fielder. Add in the fact that they absolutely own us and it's bad news for the Nats. We may be a better team next season, but actually end up finishing in 4th behind Philly, Atlanta, and Miami.


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Re: 2011 - 12 offseason for other teams
« Reply #340: December 06, 2011, 12:09:06 PM »
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/12/albert-pujols-rumors-monday.html

Essentially, the Marlins offered Pujols a ten year deal

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Re: 2011 - 12 offseason for other teams
« Reply #341: December 06, 2011, 12:13:27 PM »
Let's keep this stuff in the Winter Meetings threads for now.

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Re: 2011 - 12 offseason for other teams
« Reply #342: December 09, 2011, 07:23:40 PM »
Unlocked now that the winter meetings are over.

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Re: 2011 - 12 offseason for other teams
« Reply #343: December 10, 2011, 12:34:07 AM »
A's reliever (and Ivy League grad) Craig Breslow found out that he'd been traded to Arizona from his Twitter feed.

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Re: 2011 - 12 offseason for other teams
« Reply #344: December 10, 2011, 11:36:47 AM »
Yalie / MOT!

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« Reply #345: December 10, 2011, 11:54:21 AM »


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« Reply #346: December 11, 2011, 12:23:02 AM »
bowden with a late saturday night Willingham update:

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« Reply #347: December 11, 2011, 03:40:28 AM »
Indians.
bowden with a late saturday night Willingham update:



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Re: 2011 - 12 offseason for other teams
« Reply #348: December 12, 2011, 01:25:20 PM »
phils traded ben francisco ... Blue Jays OF is pretty crowded.  wonder who gets moved there.

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Re: 2011 - 12 offseason for other teams
« Reply #349: December 12, 2011, 01:28:37 PM »
Brewers and Aramis Ramirez agree to terms for 3 years.