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Offline RobDibblesGhost

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Re: Nationals vs Dodgers, Game 1
« Reply #200: September 05, 2011, 04:09:59 PM »
Sound the sub horn! :w:

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Re: Nationals vs Dodgers, Game 1
« Reply #201: September 05, 2011, 04:10:15 PM »
Easy like Sunday morning  ...

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Re: Nationals vs Dodgers, Game 1
« Reply #202: September 05, 2011, 04:10:17 PM »
So being last is ok and not inexcusable?  Ask Adam Dunn, his compatriot in the AL.
Danny's hitting 70 points higher than Dunn. 

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Re: Nationals vs Dodgers, Game 1
« Reply #203: September 05, 2011, 04:10:21 PM »
And of course, you're dead wrong.

Kelly Johnson - .209
Carlos Pena - .227
Chris Young - .229
Jason Bay - .230
Jayson Werth - .230
Alex Gonzalez - .231
John Buck - .231
Danny Espinosa - .233

I said "going to be".  I'm looking ahead.  I'm expecting more 0 for 4's over the rest of the season.

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Re: Nationals vs Dodgers, Game 1
« Reply #204: September 05, 2011, 04:10:21 PM »
And Desmond has done what exactly?




Desmond isn't a lock either - i never said he was.  if Lombardozzi turns out to be a keeper I could see Danny at SS.  someone will have to give up some ABs to see Lombar play.

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Re: Nationals vs Dodgers, Game 1
« Reply #205: September 05, 2011, 04:10:32 PM »
And of course, you're dead wrong.

Kelly Johnson - .209
Carlos Pena - .227
Chris Young - .229
Jason Bay - .230
Jayson Werth - .230
Alex Gonzalez - .231
John Buck - .231
Danny Espinosa - .233

Ugh, it can't be good to have two guys on that list ...

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Re: Nationals vs Dodgers, Game 1
« Reply #206: September 05, 2011, 04:11:13 PM »
I said "going to be".  I'm looking ahead.  I'm expecting more 0 for 4's over the rest of the season.

Avatar bet?

I've already got SF lined up for three months of ASSCLOWN in a few weeks.

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Re: Nationals vs Dodgers, Game 1
« Reply #207: September 05, 2011, 04:12:19 PM »
Mike "ya know" Morse

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Re: Nationals vs Dodgers, Game 1
« Reply #208: September 05, 2011, 04:13:03 PM »
I said "going to be".  I'm looking ahead.  I'm expecting more 0 for 4's over the rest of the season.
Just like you look ahead in the first inning of every game?

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Re: Nationals vs Dodgers, Game 1
« Reply #209: September 05, 2011, 04:15:35 PM »
Johnny's got a busy day with the football game tonight.

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Re: Nationals vs Dodgers, Game 1
« Reply #210: September 05, 2011, 04:16:36 PM »
Just like you look ahead in the first inning of every game?

 :clap:

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Re: Nationals vs Dodgers, Game 1
« Reply #211: September 05, 2011, 04:17:23 PM »
Avatar bet?

I've already got SF lined up for three months of ASSCLOWN in a few weeks.

Um no.  You'd "win" if he's 4th from the bottom or 6th or 10th?  How is that better or less inexcusable than being last?

Just debating how low he is on the list tells us there's something wrong!

How about betting that he'll be league average?  Me on the side that he's not.   :|

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Re: Nationals vs Dodgers, Game 1
« Reply #212: September 05, 2011, 04:21:21 PM »
Um no.  You'd "win" if he's 4th from the bottom or 6th or 10th?  How is that better or less inexcusable than being last?

Just debating how low he is on the list tells us there's something wrong!

How's his OBP compared to Desmond? How's his SLG compared to Desmond? How's his OPS compared to Desmond?

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Re: Nationals vs Dodgers, Game 1
« Reply #213: September 05, 2011, 04:24:47 PM »
Um no.  You'd "win" if he's 4th from the bottom or 6th or 10th?  How is that better or less inexcusable than being last?

Just debating how low he is on the list tells us there's something wrong!

Not really. He's never been a high average hitter. Couple that with him playing a lot more than most rookies and this slump was rather predictable. Essentially, he's starting his sophomore slump early.

Espinosas defense pretty much solidifies his spot in the lineup. Until Desmond can play even average defens or starts hitting like Hamley Ramirez from two years ago,  he will always be more of a liability than Espinosa.

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Re: Nationals vs Dodgers, Game 1
« Reply #214: September 05, 2011, 04:30:35 PM »
Johnny's got a busy day with the football game tonight.

I ain't been a MD fan since Gary Collins and Modzelewski  (Big Mo and Little Mo)   ...  alright maybe White but do the Terps play tonight?

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Re: Nationals vs Dodgers, Game 1
« Reply #215: September 05, 2011, 04:49:53 PM »
I'm really enjoying watching Ian Desmond play baseball this last month or so.

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Re: Nationals vs Dodgers, Game 1
« Reply #216: September 05, 2011, 04:58:07 PM »
I ain't been a MD fan since Gary Collins and Modzelewski  (Big Mo and Little Mo)   ...  alright maybe White but do the Terps play tonight?


They play Miami.

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Re: Nationals vs Dodgers, Game 1
« Reply #217: September 05, 2011, 04:58:16 PM »
I'm really shaking my head at PC's logic here. This isn't even saber vs. traditional, this is just common sense.

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Re: Nationals vs Dodgers, Game 1
« Reply #218: September 05, 2011, 05:10:35 PM »

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Re: Nationals vs Dodgers, Game 1
« Reply #219: September 05, 2011, 05:43:51 PM »
How's his OBP compared to Desmond? How's his SLG compared to Desmond? How's his OPS compared to Desmond?

Not really. He's never been a high average hitter. Couple that with him playing a lot more than most rookies and this slump was rather predictable. Essentially, he's starting his sophomore slump early.

Espinosas defense pretty much solidifies his spot in the lineup. Until Desmond can play even average defens or starts hitting like Hamley Ramirez from two years ago,  he will always be more of a liability than Espinosa.

I'm really shaking my head at PC's logic here. This isn't even saber vs. traditional, this is just common sense.

I'm not saying that Desmond is a great hitter and I do believe Espinosa is a far superior defender than Desmond but I do not believe Danny's "earned" anything because his liabilities at the plate are so great.  Even when he was hitting better earlier, his BA (which I still value) was low and he struck out too much.

Look, I like Danny (Ian too)  but his offense has to improve a lot before I'll pencil him in for anything, permanently...however you'd pencil anything in permanently.  :)

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Re: Nationals vs Dodgers, Game 1
« Reply #220: September 05, 2011, 05:51:01 PM »
There are, maybe, 5 better second baseman in baseball. So unless we magically aquire Pedroia I think Espinosa hase earned the starting job. At least until Rendon shows up.

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Re: Nationals vs Dodgers, Game 1
« Reply #221: September 05, 2011, 05:54:32 PM »
There are, maybe, 5 better second baseman in baseball. So unless we magically aquire Pedroia I think Espinosa hase earned the starting job. At least until Rendon shows up.

Offensively, there are more than five better.

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Re: Nationals vs Dodgers, Game 1
« Reply #222: September 05, 2011, 06:06:01 PM »
I ain't been a MD fan since Gary Collins and Modzelewski  (Big Mo and Little Mo)   ...  alright maybe White but do the Terps play tonight?


OK, now this post deserves AAA+++. Add Dick Bielski, Bob Pellegini, and Coach Jim Tatum. My dad still talks about a game against UCLA who were trying to score what would have become the winning TD. "It looked like an ocean wave crashing around a rock. Pellegrini breaking through the UCLA blockers, putting his shoulder into the ball-carrier's stomach, and throwing him on his back".


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Re: Nationals vs Dodgers, Game 1
« Reply #223: September 05, 2011, 06:09:51 PM »
OK, now this post deserves AAA+++. Add Dick Bielski, Bob Pellegini, and Coach Jim Tatum. My dad still talks about a game against UCLA who were trying to score what would have become the winning TD. "It looked like an ocean wave crashing around a rock. Pellegrini breaking through the UCLA blockers, putting his shoulder into the ball-carrier's stomach, and throwing him on his back".



I'm a Steelers' fan but I always liked Collins with the Browns.   Plus, Dick Shiner played for the Steelers.

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Re: Nationals vs Dodgers, Game 1
« Reply #224: September 05, 2011, 06:26:05 PM »
Comparative dates on which the Nationals notched their 65th win, each season

2005 - 21st August (124th match of season)
2011 - 5th September (139th match)
2007 - 10th September (144th match)
2006 - 17th September (149th match)
2010 - 23rd September (153rd match)
[2008 - finished 59-102]
[2009 - finished 59-103]