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Re: 2011 Arizona Fall League
« Reply #375: November 17, 2011, 11:17:43 AM »
This.

To me, next year doesn't really matter. We're not going to be in contention. I don't see Rizzo making any big offseason moves this year. Maybe grabbing a true CFer. Its 2013 that will be our year to make the playoffs.

Jesus, what? We're going to be in contention. 2013 will be our year to make the playoffs, maybe, but in 2012 we should gun for 85-88 wins and a shot at the wild card.

80 wins this year + 1 win for not having Slaten + 7-8 wins for having more of Stras/Zim/Zimm = wild card race. And if we grab that "true CFer" then things are even better.

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Re: 2011 Arizona Fall League
« Reply #376: November 17, 2011, 12:14:44 PM »
Are you really punting on 2012 already? Have some faith!
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Re: 2011 Arizona Fall League
« Reply #377: November 17, 2011, 12:56:50 PM »
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Commissioner Bud Selig announced that MLB will add two Wild Card teams -- one in each league -- for a total of ten playoff teams. Selig remains hopeful that the change will occur in 2012.

"People can be critical. I understand that," said Selig to reporters (including Danny Knobler of CBS Sports and MLB.com's Anthony Castrovince, both Twitter links). "It will be dramatic."
If there is an extra wild card we should be really excited about next season.

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Re: 2011 Arizona Fall League
« Reply #378: November 17, 2011, 01:07:18 PM »
If there is an extra wild card we should be really excited about next season.

Absolutely, it greatly increases the chances of middle of the pack teams to get one of the wild card slots.

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Re: 2011 Arizona Fall League
« Reply #379: November 17, 2011, 02:48:37 PM »
If there is an extra wild card we should be really excited about next season.

Yeah. Next season might be us in a one-game playoff against the Braves/Giants but having already officially become a "playoff team."

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Re: 2011 Arizona Fall League
« Reply #380: November 17, 2011, 02:59:27 PM »
Yeah. Next season might be us in a one-game playoff against the Braves/Giants but having already officially become a "playoff team."

Maybe it's just me, but I think of "playoff team" as meaning "division winner".  Wildcards are a scramble for the scraps.  I don't think I've ever heard of a team aiming at building a wildcard roster, and certainly not a #2 wildcard roster.

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Re: 2011 Arizona Fall League
« Reply #381: November 17, 2011, 03:01:12 PM »
True, but winning the one game playoff and playing a division winner counts as playoffs to me, in a division as tough as the NL East, more than one team usually deserves to be in the playoffs imo :shrug:

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Re: 2011 Arizona Fall League
« Reply #382: November 17, 2011, 03:09:38 PM »
Does the one-game playoff not count as a playoff game?

I wonder if this setup will cause some fringe teams to build their pitching roster differently...  get two good pitchers instead of one great one.

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Re: 2011 Arizona Fall League
« Reply #383: November 17, 2011, 03:10:17 PM »
I hope that the wildcard round will actually be a best of 3 series because I don't hink it would be fair to a team or the fans if their team makes the playoffs and doesn't get a home game.

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Re: 2011 Arizona Fall League
« Reply #384: November 17, 2011, 03:12:43 PM »
I'd say it definitely counts. But as you said, the concept being a "playoff team," that's what I was referring to. Honestly I'm not a huge fan of the one game playoff, I wish it were a three game series or something. But if the Nats were the #2 wildcard team and won and got to play the phillies or something, I would be overjoyed.

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Re: 2011 Arizona Fall League
« Reply #385: November 17, 2011, 03:16:39 PM »
I just realized that we are talking about playoff expansion in the arizona fall league section.

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Re: 2011 Arizona Fall League
« Reply #386: November 17, 2011, 04:54:13 PM »
Final AZ Fall League Lines
Harper
31/93 .333 17 R   6 2B  2 3B  6 HR  26 RBI  11 BB  22 SO   4/5 SB  .404 OBP .634 SLG
Norris
21/76 .276 13 R   2 2B   2 HR   11 RBI   12 BB   14 SO  4/4 SB   .375 OBP  ~.395 SLG
Walters
17/83 .205  6 R   5 2B  1 HR   10 RBI 4 BB  20 SO  .241 OBP  ~.290 SLG
Solis
4.50   ERA   26.0 IP 29 H  25/16 K/BB
Purke
13.50 ERA (Terrible Stats) But last four outings were scoreless innings
Lehman
9.50 ERA 14 IP 17/3 K/BB
Martin
1.50 ERA 12 IP 9/6 K/BB


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Re: 2011 Arizona Fall League
« Reply #387: November 17, 2011, 05:04:36 PM »
Harper:  1.038 OPS

So who does that compare to?  I don't know stats much, but I'm pretty sure that's a fairly decent OPS number.

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Re: 2011 Arizona Fall League
« Reply #388: November 17, 2011, 05:13:01 PM »
Harper:  1.038 OPS

So who does that compare to?  I don't know stats much, but I'm pretty sure that's a fairly decent OPS number.


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Re: 2011 Arizona Fall League
« Reply #389: November 17, 2011, 05:22:34 PM »
Albert Pujols
Yes, exactly, his career average OPS is 1.037
One year at OPS 1.039:
.330 41 HR 8.2 WAR
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Re: 2011 Arizona Fall League
« Reply #390: November 17, 2011, 05:32:00 PM »
Albert Pujols hit .327 with 4 home runs and 21 RBIs in 26 games in the Arizona Fall League in 2000.

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Re: 2011 Arizona Fall League
« Reply #391: November 17, 2011, 06:00:46 PM »
Sooooo what you guys are saying is that we should sign Pujols so we can have two Pujols' in our lineup!?! :P

Those are some sick numbers.

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Re: 2011 Arizona Fall League
« Reply #392: November 17, 2011, 06:01:25 PM »
Sooooo what you guys are saying is that we should sign Pujols so we can have two Pujols' in our lineup!?! :P

Those are some sick numbers.

1 righty pujols, one lefty pujols. It's perfect!!


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Re: 2011 Arizona Fall League
« Reply #393: November 17, 2011, 06:12:49 PM »
Albert Pujols hit .327 with 4 home runs and 21 RBIs in 26 games in the Arizona Fall League in 2000.

Wow.