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« Topic Start: November 14, 2006, 12:26:02 AM »
Grabbed this from Forbes Magazine - this is $ valuation not talent or rank predictions.  See us down there sucking mud?  And yet - we're doing pretty damn good thank you.

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NHL Team Valuations
11.09.06, 6:00 PM ET
LINK: http://www.forbes.com/lists/2006/31/biz_06nhl_N...s_Rank_print.html

1 Toronto Maple Leafs $332 million
2 New York Rangers $306 million
3 Detroit Red Wings $258 million
4 Dallas Stars $248 million
5 Philadelphia Flyers $246 million
6 Boston Bruins $235 million
7 Montreal Canadiens $230 million
8 Colorado Avalanche $219 million
9 Los Angeles Kings $205 million
10 Vancouver Canucks $192 million
11 Tampa Bay Lightning $172 million
12 Chicago Blackhawks $168 million
13 Minnesota Wild $163 million
14 Ottawa Senators $159 million
15 Anaheim Ducks $157 million
16 St Louis Blues $150 million
17 Buffalo Sabres $149 million
18 New Jersey Devils $148 million
19 Edmonton Oilers $146 million
20 San Jose Sharks $145 million
21 Carolina Hurricanes $144 million
22 Phoenix Coyotes $143 million
23 Florida Panthers $142 million
24 New York Islanders $140 million
25 Columbus Blue Jackets $139 million
26 Calgary Flames $135 million
27 Nashville Predators $134 million
28 Pittsburgh Penguins $133 million
29 Atlanta Thrashers $128 million
30 Washington Capitals $127 million

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« Reply #1: November 14, 2006, 12:52:27 AM »
Good find, but a team's $ value has nothing to do with its on ice performances.

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« Reply #2: November 14, 2006, 12:53:38 AM »
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Good find, but a team's $ value has nothing to do with its on ice performances.
exactly right...that's why I made that point in my post.  Didn't you see that?!?  I thought it was something especially interesting because the Capitals are doing so well so far this year despite being last in dollar value.  (Put that point in bold so it will be easier for you to see).

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« Reply #3: November 14, 2006, 12:58:38 AM »
Sorry, would you have preferred I quoted your "See us down there sucking mud? And yet - we're doing pretty damn good thank you." statement in my reply?

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« Reply #4: November 14, 2006, 12:59:22 AM »
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Sorry, would you have preferred I quoted your "See us down there sucking mud? And yet - we're doing pretty damn good thank you." statement in my reply?
Exactly my point...I'm confused as to why you are confused.  What's funny is that I think we are both essentially saying the same thing.  That talent doesn't always reflect the payroll.  The difference I suppose is that you think it's obvious and not worth posting.  I thought it was worth posting because Washington is ON THE BOTTOM, which makes it particularly interesting to Washington Fans.

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« Reply #5: November 14, 2006, 01:28:28 AM »
You could be right in that I am seeing a half dozen you are seeing six...

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« Reply #6: November 14, 2006, 11:19:04 AM »
The last time I saw these numbers, the Rangers and the Red Wings were both way ahead of the 'Leafs...wonder if the appreciation of the Canadian dollar has anything to do with this?

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« Reply #7: November 14, 2006, 05:42:42 PM »
*cough* #2 *cough*

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« Reply #8: November 14, 2006, 06:13:18 PM »
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*cough* #2 *cough*


*cough* hockey sucks *cough*

 :lol:

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« Reply #9: November 14, 2006, 06:17:20 PM »
Just remember this is the VALUE OF THE FRANCHISE.  Not payroll.  It includes revenues from ticket sales, concessions...quality of the venue...etc.  This is what is the determined to be the cost of the team if it was up for sale.

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« Reply #10: November 14, 2006, 08:34:23 PM »
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Quote from: "ColtonWillems"
*cough* #2 *cough*


*cough* hockey sucks *cough*

 :lol:


Oy vey, people don't know the goods when they see it. Hockey is the best sport...

Hockey > Baseball

*gets out bashing shield*

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« Reply #11: November 14, 2006, 08:50:23 PM »
these kind of comments are going to change the point of the thread...if you don't like hockey - don't comment.  Thanks.  

On the other hand if you wish to start a thread on the merits of hockey and how it is truly a man's sport and not corrupted with girlie rules to prevent anyone from getting "hurt"...you may certainly do so.   8)

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« Reply #12: November 14, 2006, 09:24:34 PM »
While I like baseball, it is one of the pansiest sports out there. Think about it: If it rains you don't play, you only play in the summer, you can rest whenever you want, etc etc

Hockey > baseball, if only because it actually requires physical contact with another person.

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« Reply #13: November 15, 2006, 06:46:30 AM »
Baseball > Hockey

Honestly, I do like hockey, but baseball is my love.  I just think hockey has too much contact, and not enough strategy.  Now, I'm not saying I'd rather be a hockey player; they are the toughest around.

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« Reply #14: November 15, 2006, 09:07:49 PM »
People who don't follow hockey don't see the strategy involved. It's way more strategic that people think - this is coming from someone who play its almost everyday.

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« Reply #15: November 15, 2006, 10:46:06 PM »
I think a lot of people can't connect with Hockey because it's not remotely close to being something they could do.  Most people can throw a ball or shoot some hoops, but most people can't ice skate worth a damn, much less swing a stick and knock a puck around whilst doing so.

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« Reply #16: November 15, 2006, 10:49:32 PM »
Hahaha and after you grow up you're too afraid you're gonna  make a total fool out of yourself trying!   :lol:
Example:



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« Reply #17: November 16, 2006, 06:51:33 AM »
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Hahaha and after you grow up you're too afraid you're gonna  make a total fool out of yourself trying!   :lol:
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Has Sens2k5 just revealed himself  :shock:  :wink:

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« Reply #18: November 16, 2006, 07:35:46 AM »
uh...no.  I don't look like Waldo.  Sorry to disappoint.   :P

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« Reply #19: November 16, 2006, 03:34:36 PM »
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uh...no.  I don't look like Waldo.  Sorry to disappoint.   :P


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« Reply #20: December 08, 2006, 12:25:19 PM »
Quote from: "Senators2005"
Just remember this is the VALUE OF THE FRANCHISE.  Not payroll.  It includes revenues from ticket sales, concessions...quality of the venue...etc.  This is what is the determined to be the cost of the team if it was up for sale.


Are intangibles factored in?  I mean, when you value an ongoing business enterprise, you include things like "goodwill" and intellectual property values and things like that.  I am sure "original six" franchises have a lot more of this intangible value than, say, the Columbus Blue Jackets.

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« Reply #21: December 08, 2006, 01:33:39 PM »
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Quote from: "Senators2005"
Just remember this is the VALUE OF THE FRANCHISE.  Not payroll.  It includes revenues from ticket sales, concessions...quality of the venue...etc.  This is what is the determined to be the cost of the team if it was up for sale.


Are intangibles factored in?  I mean, when you value an ongoing business enterprise, you include things like "goodwill" and intellectual property values and things like that.  I am sure "original six" franchises have a lot more of this intangible value than, say, the Columbus Blue Jackets.


Interesting question...the Habs and Bruins certainly have a lot more historical value than the Sunbelt Sweaty Dogs, but that kind of thing inherently defies valuation.  Merchandise sales don't really reflect that either.  Market valuation of sports teams is an especially fuzzy area, since there are probably more people willing to support unprofitable but storied "trophy" teams than other types of businesses.

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« Reply #22: December 08, 2006, 05:56:49 PM »
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People who don't follow hockey don't see the strategy involved. It's way more strategic that people think - this is coming from someone who play its almost everyday.


I agree 100% My friends and I just started playing regularly again. But the people who never give hockey a chance (which is most people) don't see how good the game actually is. It's my favorite sport to play and watch by far (Sorry guys).