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Offline Lintyfresh85

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Baseball America's Top 100 prospects (2011)
« Topic Start: February 23, 2011, 11:21:07 AM »
Nats end up with four on the list.

1. Harper
66. Espinosa
72. Norris
96. Ramos

http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/prospects/rankings/top-100-prospects/2011/2611316.html

Interestingly enough, Norris is listed as a 2011 ETA date.

September call up, perhaps?

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Re: Baseball America's Top 100 prospects (2011)
« Reply #1: February 23, 2011, 11:43:44 AM »
Beautiful. Surprised to see Espinosa above Norris though. Seems to be winning scouts over with his defense and the CS% is [googly eyes].

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Re: Baseball America's Top 100 prospects (2011)
« Reply #2: February 23, 2011, 01:14:19 PM »
Norris dropped a lot.

I expect Espinosa to outperform a lot on that list, too.  He looks like he has pretty low bust potential at this point, while there will be a fair number of busts among those ranked ahead of him.

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Re: Baseball America's Top 100 prospects (2011)
« Reply #3: February 23, 2011, 01:21:43 PM »
Really? I think Espinosa could bust out fairly easily with the hamate injury.

When you have as big of a swing as he does... and your power is drained, you could be looking at a .200/.290/.330 line that gets him sent back to AAA.

2012 should be a good year for him, though.

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« Reply #4: February 23, 2011, 01:27:02 PM »
I wonder why they're so negative about Norris and Ramos. They're both sitting at a slot where guys have about a 25% chance of succeeding in the bigs. http://www.wnff.net/index.php/topic,21348.0.html

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Re: Baseball America's Top 100 prospects (2011)
« Reply #5: February 23, 2011, 01:55:47 PM »
Norris dropped a lot.

I expect Espinosa to outperform a lot on that list, too.  He looks like he has pretty low bust potential at this point, while there will be a fair number of busts among those ranked ahead of him.
I think with Norris he was hurt last year and people are discounting his AFL.  There is also the repeated mantra of "he can't stick at catcher."  Finally, there are some who will say he'll always have a low batting average.  There are so many shiboleth's about him that I'm sure you can find reasons to knock him down if you want.  That, and it is a freaky good time for catching prospects.  If he's the 8th best catcher, how many can you rank above #70?

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« Reply #6: February 23, 2011, 02:07:10 PM »
Even if you're right and Espinosa has a terrible year and is solid in 2012, that won't make him a bust.  Espinosa will at least be an ML contributor as a solid glove at MI.  There are lots of light hitting SS and 2B. 

There are players on that list ranked above #65 or whatever who will never see the majors. 

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Re: Baseball America's Top 100 prospects (2011)
« Reply #7: February 23, 2011, 02:09:25 PM »
Ramos also - he'll be a backup catcher at worst.  He falls in that same category of maybe not having a super-high ceiling, but lower bust potential.

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« Reply #8: February 23, 2011, 02:23:55 PM »
Even if you're right and Espinosa has a terrible year and is solid in 2012, that won't make him a bust.  Espinosa will at least be an ML contributor as a solid glove at MI.  There are lots of light hitting SS and 2B.  

There are players on that list ranked above #65 or whatever who will never see the majors.  

I'm talking about being a bust in 2011 ONLY.

I think he'll be a very solid pro when his career is done.

Ramos also - he'll be a backup catcher at worst.  He falls in that same category of maybe not having a super-high ceiling, but lower bust potential.

Henry Blanco Jr.?

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Re: Baseball America's Top 100 prospects (2011)
« Reply #9: February 23, 2011, 03:49:56 PM »
Really? I think Espinosa could bust out fairly easily with the hamate injury.

When you have as big of a swing as he does... and your power is drained, you could be looking at a .200/.290/.330 line that gets him sent back to AAA.

2012 should be a good year for him, though.

Agreed.  I just hope they don't screw him up by keeping him on the bench too long or something.

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Re: Baseball America's Top 100 prospects (2011)
« Reply #10: February 23, 2011, 03:50:02 PM »
We have Mickey Tettleton, Jr., Henry Blanco, Jr., and Zombieman as our catchers of the future.

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Re: Baseball America's Top 100 prospects (2011)
« Reply #11: February 23, 2011, 03:54:46 PM »
take that mike trout!

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Re: Baseball America's Top 100 prospects (2011)
« Reply #12: February 23, 2011, 04:11:14 PM »
I found this interesting

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By Draft Round

35   First round
9   Supplemental first round, second round
6   Third round
4   Fourth round, fifth round
3   Eighth round
1   Sixth, seventh, 10th, 15th, 20th, 23rd, 32nd, 38th round


By Signing Bonus

22   $100,000 to $499,999
21   $2 million to $3,999,999;
21   $500,000 to $999,999
19   $1 million to $1,999,999
9   $4 million to $9,999,999
7   $99,999 or less
1   $10 million or more


I looks like there is a lot of value all over the place in terms of bonuses, but in terms of rounds I'm surprised at how fast it falls off. It also makes me wish this team was more aggressive internationally


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Re: Baseball America's Top 100 prospects (2011)
« Reply #13: February 23, 2011, 04:38:25 PM »
Sort of a chicken-egg deal going on, though. How many guys are hanging around the bottom of the Top 100 because they have the first round tag?

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Re: Baseball America's Top 100 prospects (2011)
« Reply #14: February 23, 2011, 05:13:05 PM »
8 royals by my count.  wow.

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« Reply #15: February 23, 2011, 05:42:55 PM »
8 royals by my count.  wow.
without looking at the list, probably 6 in the top 25?  Moustakas, Hosmer, Mongtgomery, another pitcher, a second baseman, and Myers.

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Re: Baseball America's Top 100 prospects (2011)
« Reply #16: February 23, 2011, 06:42:15 PM »
If all of them pan out - damn.

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« Reply #17: February 23, 2011, 06:56:20 PM »
If all of them pan out - damn.

If half of them pan out - still damn.

That team could be demolishing the AL Central in 3 years.

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Re: Baseball America's Top 100 prospects (2011)
« Reply #18: February 24, 2011, 08:22:33 AM »
I wonder why they're so negative about Norris and Ramos. They're both sitting at a slot where guys have about a 25% chance of succeeding in the bigs. http://www.wnff.net/index.php/topic,21348.0.html


Rizzo acquired them, thats why.  :shrug:

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Re: Baseball America's Top 100 prospects (2011)
« Reply #19: February 24, 2011, 08:29:42 AM »
Aaron Crow was ranked number 40 last year. I wonder how many of the Top Prospects haven't played more than a handful of professional games.

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Re: Baseball America's Top 100 prospects (2011)
« Reply #20: February 24, 2011, 09:28:27 AM »
Aaron Crow was ranked number 40 last year. I wonder how many of the Top Prospects haven't played more than a handful of professional games.
This.  It seems like the high first rounders always are listed the next year.  Heck, I think Colton Willems was in the top 100 after he was drafted, and I know Marrero was for at least a couple of years.

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Re: Baseball America's Top 100 prospects (2011)
« Reply #21: February 24, 2011, 09:38:11 AM »
This.  It seems like the high first rounders always are listed the next year.  Heck, I think Colton Willems was in the top 100 after he was drafted, and I know Marrero was for at least a couple of years.

Colton Wontems you mean?

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Re: Baseball America's Top 100 prospects (2011)
« Reply #22: February 24, 2011, 09:40:36 AM »
This.  It seems like the high first rounders always are listed the next year.  Heck, I think Colton Willems was in the top 100 after he was drafted, and I know Marrero was for at least a couple of years.

Sort of a chicken-egg deal going on, though. How many guys are hanging around the bottom of the Top 100 because they have the first round tag?

JCA has me on ignore.

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Re: Baseball America's Top 100 prospects (2011)
« Reply #23: February 24, 2011, 10:38:05 AM »
This.  It seems like the high first rounders always are listed the next year.  Heck, I think Colton Willems was in the top 100 after he was drafted, and I know Marrero was for at least a couple of years.

Willems never made it to the list, he was a "just missed" in 2008 IIRC.

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Re: Baseball America's Top 100 prospects (2011)
« Reply #24: February 24, 2011, 11:01:48 AM »
'just missed' sounds about right.

we've had our share of 'just missed' prospects.  ha.