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No, people are pretty much saying that Rivera and Hoffman will get in without too much angst.
yeah, that's what i've read. I'm assuming first ballot for Mo, but Hoffman will have to wait a year.
If Rivera or Hoffman are first ballot Hall Of Famers, why do people think drafting a relief pitcher in the first round is a mistake?
How many relievers are in the HOF, and how does this compare to starters?
because their longevity makes them the exception to the rule
How many teams win on a consistent basis without a prominent reliever?
Most relievers are drafted as starters, aren't they? You don't have to draft a reliever to have one, you can convert a starter, or get one via trade or free-agent signing.
The phillies seem to be doing fine.
Last season we flipped Matt Capps, a closer who was leading the league in saves and playing out of his mind for Wilson Ramos. Show me an example of a position player leading the league in a major stat or a starting pitcher leading in wins flipped for so little at the trade deadline
Saves are a terrible stat and everybody above the age of 3 knows that.
nonetheless, Capps was a dominant reliever at the time he was traded and we got Ramos, show me an equally dominant starter or position player traded for so little.
If a closer can make it into the HOF, why can't a DH? I don't get this.
You're the only person that considers Capps dominant. Most think he was around average for a back of the bullpen guy.
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