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Follow The Prospects: Stephen Lombardozzi Jr, 2B
« Topic Start: November 01, 2010, 10:25:57 PM »
Could not find a dedicated thread, so here we go.  He has come to the attention of Fangraph's Carson Cistulli.
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/szymborskis-mles-five-notable-double-a-batters/
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Name: Steve Lombardozzi, 22, 2B
Organization: Washington Level: Double-A
Actual: 118 PA, .295/.373/.524 (.306 BABIP), .396 wOBA
zMLE: 118 PA, .259/.328/.426 (.291 BABIP), .333 wOBA
Notes
• Is noted, in BA’s preseason Prospect Handbook, for being “hard-nosed.”
• Is predicted, in same text, to become “a sparkplug in the Nick Punto mold.”
• Nick Punto, age-21 season (1999), at High-A: 478 PA, .305/.404/.388 (.353 BABIP).
• Lombardozzi at High-A this season: 507 PA, .293/.370/.405 (.336 BABIP).
• That’s pretty similar, although I’m guessing Lombardozzi hits a home run more than once every 189 ABs as a major leaguer.
Of course, some will take his being likened to Nick Punto as unfavorable attention, but Nick actually had decent plate discipline in the minors.

EDIT - 6/3/11 - This is really JMU's thread, but I thought some of this earlier stuff from November was worth linking to his thread.

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Re: Steve Lombardozzi
« Reply #1: November 01, 2010, 11:42:14 PM »
Lombardozzi oozes leadoff potential.

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Re: Steve Lombardozzi
« Reply #2: November 02, 2010, 12:07:24 AM »
I thought the general consensus was that he oozed middle infielder off the bench...

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Re: Steve Lombardozzi
« Reply #3: November 02, 2010, 01:30:29 AM »
I thought the general consensus was that he oozed middle infielder off the bench...

His OBP has remained steady all the way up to AA at .370+.  If he can sustain that then you've got a MI who leads off.  Worst case seems like MI backup at this point.  He's still only 22.

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Re: Steve Lombardozzi
« Reply #4: November 02, 2010, 10:15:28 AM »
I thought the general consensus was that he oozed middle infielder off the bench...

And Colton Willems was supposed to be a front of the rotation starter one day.  Things change over time, and this particular general consensus is probably about 2 years old.  Lombardozzi has done a ton of things right over the last two seasons to change this perception and he has a lot of people that follow the system closely believing that he could end up as a solid ML 2B someday soon.  Bench player was once his ceiling, but that expectation has most certainly shifted for the better.

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Re: Steve Lombardozzi
« Reply #5: November 09, 2010, 08:28:23 AM »
Lombardozzi oozes leadoff potential.

so true

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Re: Steve Lombardozzi
« Reply #6: November 09, 2010, 08:40:41 AM »
so true

Welcome to the board, Mrs. Lombardozzi ;)

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Re: Steve Lombardozzi
« Reply #7: November 09, 2010, 08:44:10 AM »
15 games .279 / .392 / .443 in 61 ABs (~70 PAs).  9 BB, 5 Ks :clap:

Does not prove much, but I would love to have a 15 game stretch when any of our leadoff hitters did that. 

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Re: Steve Lombardozzi
« Reply #8: November 09, 2010, 08:55:11 AM »
15 games .279 / .392 / .443 in 61 ABs (~70 PAs).  9 BB, 5 Ks :clap:

Does not prove much, but I would love to have a 15 game stretch when any of our leadoff hitters did that. 
Remember when Nyjer looked like that?  Good times...

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Follow The Prospects: Stephen Lombardozzi Jr, 2B
« Reply #9: April 28, 2011, 03:39:59 PM »
Height:  6'0
Weight:  170
DOB:  9/20/1988
Hometown:  Fulton, Maryland
College:  St. Petersburg JC
Position:  Second Base
Nationals Prospect Ranks:  BA #13, Sickels #14 (C+)



This switch hitting, slick infielder is the son of former major leaguer Steve Lombardozzi, who played with the Twins and Astros in his 6 year career.  After being drafted in the 19th round of the 2008 MLB amateur draft, the younger Lombo has steadily moved through the Nats minor league system, proving himself at each level.  He has maintained between a .370-.375 OBP at each stop through the minors and has proven to be an adequate if not good leadoff hitter.  He has frequently been able to work the count, taking lots of pitches, and doing whatever he could to get on base.  Much like his father, he is also an excellent fielder, never committing more than 10 errors in a season and committing only 25 in 324 minor league games.  His fielding percentage for his career so far is .983.  Last season, he helped Potomac earn a playoff birth by batting .293/.370/.409, with 30 doubles and 20 stolen bases.  He was promoted a little bit after the halfway mark of the season and continued to hit well with the Senators.  He will again begin the year with Harrisburg.  At one point, many scouts believed that Lombardozzi would profile best as a utility infielder at the ML level, but more recently some have increased his potential ceiling to that of a top of the lineup 2nd baseman, with comparisons to Nick Punto.

The Nationals selected Lombo to represent them in the AFL last fall, where he was awarded the 2010 Dernell Stenson award, given to the AFL participant who "best exemplifies unselfishness, hard work and leadership."  In his AFL stint, Lombardozzi hit for an average of .293 and an OBP of .385, mirroring his career numbers.  So far, Lombardozzi has proven to be another late round find by the Nationals, who need all the talent they can stumble across after the MLB-owned and Bowden years.

Here is mention from Fangraphs 5 notable AA batters:

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Name: Steve Lombardozzi, 22, 2B
Organization: Washington Level: Double-A
Actual: 118 PA, .295/.373/.524 (.306 BABIP), .396 wOBA
zMLE: 118 PA, .259/.328/.426 (.291 BABIP), .333 wOBA
Notes
• Is noted, in BA’s preseason Prospect Handbook, for being “hard-nosed.”
• Is predicted, in same text, to become “a sparkplug in the Nick Punto mold.”
• Nick Punto, age-21 season (1999), at High-A: 478 PA, .305/.404/.388 (.353 BABIP).
• Lombardozzi at High-A this season: 507 PA, .293/.370/.405 (.336 BABIP).
• That’s pretty similar, although I’m guessing Lombardozzi hits a home run more than once every 189 ABs as a major leaguer.


The Good:  Excellent OBP, great fielder that can play most of the infield positions, "hard-nosed" player with leadoff potential, switch hitter, very high baseball IQ, 2009 SAL All-Star

The Bad:  Little power, decent speed but has been caught stealing too much (20 in 68 attempts) over his career, doesn't have great talent but makes up for with hard work/IQ

Video from AFL

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Sounds like a slightly better version of David Eckstein...

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Sounds like a slightly better version of David Eckstein...

Sounds like a younger version of Steve Lombardozzi. Check out their MiLB stats.

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Yeah, but I never saw SR. play.  I did see Eck.  Either way, it's exciting to see him developing, would love to see him at the top of the lineup in the near future and up the middle with Danny.

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Ehh. Eckstein is 6 inches shorter and never showed any power throughout the minors, while Lombo has showed increasing power, even as he moves up levels. He's also 2 years younger by level.

Although I guess every scrappy player is now compared to Eckstein.

I'm hoping he's more like Orlando Hudson, who he's similar to physically and also developed power as he got older.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=hudson001orl

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Eckstein is 5' 6"?

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Unless he likes listing himself as shorter than he is (I wouldn't put anything past him, maybe being shorter increases his "scrappiness"):

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/e/eckstda01.shtml

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It's only 71 ABs, but he's shown a nice jump in his ISO - .211 so far.  Seems to be drawing fewer walks -.268 / .333 / .479.  This is kind of the opposite of how he had been projected.

[edit - his ISO was actually higher in AA last year over 105 ABs, but for all of 2010 it was a little over .100]

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Looking at the trend in his ISO, I wonder if the rap on his power is legit or whether he is growing into it.

2008 (GCL) - .039
2009 (SAL) - .099
2010 (Car .116 - 440 ABs / EL .229 - 105 ABs) - .137
2011 (EL - 71 ABs) - .211

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Unless he likes listing himself as shorter than he is (I wouldn't put anything past him, maybe being shorter increases his "scrappiness"):

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/e/eckstda01.shtml
Dang, kid. 

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Eckstein is 5' 6"?

and his brother isn't a good hitting coach.

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Looking at the trend in his ISO, I wonder if the rap on his power is legit or whether he is growing into it.

2008 (GCL) - .039
2009 (SAL) - .099
2010 (Car .116 - 440 ABs / EL .229 - 105 ABs) - .137
2011 (EL - 71 ABs) - .211

You took part of my point, which is that Lombo seems to be developing power, while Eckstein's ISO of .075 is the 15th lowest of the 438 players after 1980 that had 4000 plate appearances or more.

Given the consistency of his BA and OBP numbers, and his developing power, I would guess that a peak MLB slashline of .290/.370/.440 isn't out of the question at all. That's very valuable as a plus-fielding second baseman, something like 4.5-5 WAR per season (going by Brian Roberts and Orlando Hudson).


Of course, that is likely his BEST season, but even a .265/.340/.400 type average is pretty valuable if he's a good fielder. Orlando Hudson was a 3 win player last year at .268/.338/.372.

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Nice job, NJ, for figuring it out first.  I have not seen it mentioned elsewhere and seems contrary to the buzz about him.  I just hope the power growth isn't at the expense of his OBP. 

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If he turns into a player similar to Orlando Hudson, that would be great!

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My hobby is finding real comps for Stephen Lombardozzi other than David Eckstein.

Realistic: Mark Grudzielanek, Placido Polanco, Mark Ellis
Hoping: Orlando Hudson, Brian Roberts (w. less speed)

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Lombo up to .296/.380/.506, with just 11 strikeouts in 81 AB.