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Offline hammondsnats

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Re: Nationals vs Astros, Game 2
« Reply #350: September 21, 2010, 10:39:09 PM »
bang zoom though ... this was one of the few games recently i've watched.

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Re: Nationals vs Astros, Game 2
« Reply #351: September 21, 2010, 10:53:04 PM »
BANG ZOOM!

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Re: Nationals vs Astros, Game 2
« Reply #352: September 21, 2010, 10:54:10 PM »
Aww, someone curly W'ed for me :lol:

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Re: Nationals vs Astros, Game 2
« Reply #353: September 22, 2010, 01:28:02 AM »
I disagree.  An average offensive can be constructed with a lineup consisting (largely) of these players.  Average shouldn't be/isn't that difficult.
The team has 2 good hitters (Dunn and Zim), 1 above average hitter (Morse), 1 around average hitter (Desmond), 1 mediocre hitter (Bernadina), 3 crap hitters (Pudge, Morgan, and Espinosa), plus a bench filled with crap (Maxwell, Nieves, Harris, Mench). That is not a good lineup. With Hammer, it's a possible average lineup, but not with Bernadina as our #5 hitter and Morgan at leadoff.

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Re: Nationals vs Astros, Game 2
« Reply #354: September 22, 2010, 02:46:36 AM »
The team has 2 good hitters (Dunn and Zim), 1 above average hitter (Morse), 1 around average hitter (Desmond), 1 mediocre hitter (Bernadina), 3 crap hitters (Pudge, Morgan, and Espinosa), plus a bench filled with crap (Maxwell, Nieves, Harris, Mench). That is not a good lineup. With Hammer, it's a possible average lineup, but not with Bernadina as our #5 hitter and Morgan at leadoff.

Remember we're talking average, not good and I've excluded Morgan already.  He can't even be in an average lineup.

I'm assuming we keep Dunn and that Willingham comes back healthy.  And we don't know what kind of hitter Espinosa is yet.  He doesn't even have to be particularly good to outperform the offense we've gotten from 2nd this season.  We've gotten incredibly bad offense from the 2nd base position.  AND I'm assuming we sign another bat, likely outfield.

The path to average is determined by who is our worst (relatively) hitter.  I'm assuming that to be Bernadina at CF which means we'd also have to have better performance at catcher because we've also underperformed, offensively, at the catcher position this season but average performance at the catcher position is easier to achieve because catcher isn't a high offensive output position, generally.  That means less Rodriguez and no Nieves.

We also would need a better bench.  We've gotten below average performace from our bench but not as much below average as you'd think (I just checked the numbers).  Again, our objective in this particular exercise is average,  not good.

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Re: Nationals vs Astros, Game 2
« Reply #355: September 22, 2010, 02:49:38 AM »
Remember we're talking average, not good and I've excluded Morgan already.  He can't even be in an average lineup.

I'm assuming we keep Dunn and that Willingham comes back healthy.  And we don't know what kind of hitter Espinosa is yet.  He doesn't even have to be particularly good to outperform the offense we've gotten from 2nd this season.  We've gotten incredibly bad offense from the 2nd base position this season.  AND I'm assuming we sign another bat, likely outfield.

The path to average is determined by who is our worst (relatively) hitter.  I'm assuming that to be Bernadina at CF which means we'd also have to have better performance at catcher because we've also underperformed, offensively, at the catcher position this season but average performance at the catcher position is easier to achieve because catcher isn't a high offensive output position, generally.  That means less Rodriguez and no Nieves.

We also would need a better bench.  We've gotten below average performace from our bench but not as much below average as you'd think (I just checked the numbers).  Again, our objective in this particular exercise is average,  not good.
I'd argue that Pudge was lucky this year. He was batting .330 in May. I don't see any he improves. Less Nieves will improve the team, but it's not like Ramos is a good offensive player.

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Re: Nationals vs Astros, Game 2
« Reply #356: September 22, 2010, 07:17:21 AM »
I noticed something that worries me... Ian Desmond has the second-lowest BB/K rate in the majors and one of the lowest overall BB% rates.  That means his wOBA is never going to be particularly high unless he hits for significantly more power than he has this season (it, not coincidentally, is also one of the lowest in the majors).  I think his relatively high average is a bit of a mirage.  So it may be that the Nats want to keep him at SS because they don't think he is a good enough hitter to play second.  While it's always possible that his eye will improve significantly from where it is now, 4.6 BB% is really, really low for any starter, even a shortstop.

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Re: Nationals vs Astros, Game 2
« Reply #357: September 22, 2010, 09:09:28 AM »
Odd that the announced attendance was only 11,893 - looked a lot bigger than last night's 10,999 (we even had beer vendors in the stands up in the 300's last night, unlike Monday).

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Re: Nationals vs Astros, Game 2
« Reply #358: September 22, 2010, 09:48:08 AM »
Odd that the announced attendance was only 11,893 - looked a lot bigger than last night's 10,999 (we even had beer vendors in the stands up in the 300's last night, unlike Monday).

Sounded bigger too, suspect a fair number of those folks were on freebies, I had a rather large collection of GWU alum/grad students/faculty that spent most of the game discuss the world political situation...jeez

Nice to stick around and actually have them pull it out for once :-)

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Re: Nationals vs Astros, Game 2
« Reply #359: September 22, 2010, 11:21:04 AM »
Odd that the announced attendance was only 11,893 - looked a lot bigger than last night's 10,999 (we even had beer vendors in the stands up in the 300's last night, unlike Monday).

I sat in 312 last night. Like moths to a flame.

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Re: Nationals vs Astros, Game 2
« Reply #360: September 22, 2010, 12:47:34 PM »
I sat in 312 last night. Like moths to a flame.

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