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Offline DPMOmaha

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Nationals vs Mets, Game 3
« Topic Start: September 08, 2010, 11:07:58 AM »
Game Time: 12:35 (ET)
Venue: Nationals Park
TV: MASN 2 HD
Radio: WFED 1500, SBN 730
 



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R.A. Dickey

9-6, 2.91

RF - Angel Pagan
2B - Luis Hernandez
CF - Carlos Beltran
1B - Ike Davis
3B - David Wright
LF - Chris Carter
C - Josh Thole
SS - Ruben Tejada
P - R.A. Dickey



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Livan Hernandez

9-10, 3.81

Nyjer Morgan - CF
Ian Desmond - SS
Ryan Zimmerman - 3B
Adam Dunn - 1B
Roger Bernadina - LF
Michael Morse - RF
Danny Espinosa - 2B
Wilson Ramos - C
Livan Hernandez - P


Offline The Chief

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Re: Nationals vs Mets, Game 3
« Reply #1: September 08, 2010, 11:09:35 AM »
DICKEY!!!!


Offline Lintyfresh85

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Re: Nationals vs Mets, Game 3
« Reply #2: September 08, 2010, 11:13:07 AM »
Can anyone explain how his knuckleball works? How does he throw it so much harder than everyone else?

I've screwed around with trying to throw one... but the harder I throw it, the more it spins.

I'd love to know how he throws it fast and keeps the spin down.

I wonder if he and Wakefield throw the pitch differently.

Offline OldChelsea

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Re: Nationals vs Mets, Game 3
« Reply #3: September 08, 2010, 11:15:12 AM »
For those going today - temperature expected to top off at 92 - hydrate properly and take any other appropriate precautions.

...leaving now...AFTERNOON BASEBALL RULES!

Offline PANatsFan

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Re: Nationals vs Mets, Game 3
« Reply #4: September 08, 2010, 11:17:19 AM »
This is great except I have a meeting from 1-2:30 :(

Offline Kevrock

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Re: Nationals vs Mets, Game 3
« Reply #5: September 08, 2010, 11:17:51 AM »
Can anyone explain how his knuckleball works? How does he throw it so much harder than everyone else?

I've screwed around with trying to throw one... but the harder I throw it, the more it spins.

Try not breaking your wrist, or keeping your wrist flexed back and stiff.

I don't know how Dickey throws his, but the velocity doesn't affect the amount of spin on mine, and that's how I throw it.

Offline Lintyfresh85

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Re: Nationals vs Mets, Game 3
« Reply #6: September 08, 2010, 11:19:31 AM »
Try not breaking your wrist, or keeping your wrist flexed back and stiff.

I don't know how Dickey throws his, but the velocity doesn't affect the amount of spin on mine, and that's how I throw it.

Dickey's knuckleball averages 76 MPH, Wakefield is at 66.

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Re: Nationals vs Mets, Game 3
« Reply #7: September 08, 2010, 11:48:30 AM »

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Re: Nationals vs Mets, Game 3
« Reply #8: September 08, 2010, 11:51:10 AM »
Dickey's knuckleball averages 76 MPH, Wakefield is at 66.

If you look at Chief's pic of Dickey, could it be the 3/4 to sidearm delivery?  Perhaps the angle helps him hold the ball a bit longer which allows better arm speed?  Just grasping straws....

The guy I catch that throws a knuckler throws it from a pure sidearm angle.

Offline HalfSmokes

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Re: Nationals vs Mets, Game 3
« Reply #9: September 08, 2010, 12:02:21 PM »
It might have to do with height, arm length, arm strength... I don't find the difference in speed between dickey and wakefield surprising. Just because it's the same pitch doesn't mean it will be the same speed. I bet the difference between them is a lot less than my fast ball vs. Chapman's

Offline Kevrock

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Re: Nationals vs Mets, Game 3
« Reply #10: September 08, 2010, 12:06:21 PM »
Found an interesting read on the whole velocity thing.

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"We have two different styles," he said. "I still have more arm strength than he does, just because I was a conventional pitcher before I became a knuckleballer. He was a position player. I still have a little bit of a fastball. And my knuckleball is probably on average about 6 or 7 mph harder than his.

"That doesn't make it better. That's just the way it is. If you ask somebody that was intimate with what a knuckleball does and is, I'd say they would probably liken me more to Joe Niekro, Phil's brother -- a guy who threw kind of hard and mixed in other pitches as well from time to time. But if we're throwing it good, then it's good. It comes out with no rotation and then it's hard to hit."


http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/news/story?id=5215645

Offline Kevrock

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Re: Nationals vs Mets, Game 3
« Reply #11: September 08, 2010, 12:07:41 PM »
It might have to do with height, arm length, arm strength... I don't find the difference in speed between dickey and wakefield surprising. Just because it's the same pitch doesn't mean it will be the same speed. I bet the difference between them is a lot less than my fast ball vs. Chapman's

True. I've seen more ways to throw the knuckleball than I have any other pitch.

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Re: Nationals vs Mets, Game 3
« Reply #12: September 08, 2010, 12:20:52 PM »
If you look at Chief's pic of Dickey

You've got the wrong guy, pal.  There are no pics of Dickey on MY computer.

Offline Potomac Cannons

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Re: Nationals vs Mets, Game 3
« Reply #13: September 08, 2010, 12:23:54 PM »
Bat Sludge 9th.

Offline Lintyfresh85

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Re: Nationals vs Mets, Game 3
« Reply #14: September 08, 2010, 12:24:38 PM »
Pudge scratched, Ramos in.

Espinosa moved up to 7th.

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Re: Nationals vs Mets, Game 3
« Reply #15: September 08, 2010, 12:30:28 PM »
Pudge scratched, Ramos in.

Espinosa moved up to 7th.

Potomac = Mark Lerner.

Offline spidernat

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Re: Nationals vs Mets, Game 3
« Reply #16: September 08, 2010, 12:30:32 PM »
You've got the wrong guy, pal.  There are no pics of Dickey on MY computer.

What if he meant "pick"?  :shock:

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Re: Nationals vs Mets, Game 3
« Reply #17: September 08, 2010, 12:31:06 PM »
What if he meant "pick"?  :shock:

Then the sentence wouldn't even make sense to me? :shrug:

Offline Lintyfresh85

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Re: Nationals vs Mets, Game 3
« Reply #18: September 08, 2010, 12:36:09 PM »
I hate the fact that I'm in the midst of fantasy playoffs and my opponent has both Zimmerman and Dunn on his team.


Offline Sharp

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Re: Nationals vs Mets, Game 3
« Reply #19: September 08, 2010, 12:39:36 PM »
Dickey is really, really good.  All we can hope for is that Livan doesn't blow up and the Nats get a few runs off him.

Offline imref

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Re: Nationals vs Mets, Game 3
« Reply #20: September 08, 2010, 12:40:59 PM »
can't wait for Dickey vs. Wang next year, just to read the thread.

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Re: Nationals vs Mets, Game 3
« Reply #21: September 08, 2010, 12:42:07 PM »
Nyjer Morgan - CF
Ian Desmond - SS
Ryan Zimmerman - 3B
Adam Dunn - 1B
Roger Bernadina - LF
Michael Morse - RF
Danny Espinosa - 2B
Wilson Ramos - C
Livan Hernandez - P

Best lineup of the year. Easily.

Offline spidernat

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Re: Nationals vs Mets, Game 3
« Reply #22: September 08, 2010, 12:44:59 PM »
^  People were saying that yesterday and we saw how that ended.

Offline DPMOmaha

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Re: Nationals vs Mets, Game 3
« Reply #23: September 08, 2010, 12:45:09 PM »
Was Pudge scratched?

Offline Lintyfresh85

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Re: Nationals vs Mets, Game 3
« Reply #24: September 08, 2010, 12:45:30 PM »