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Offline PC

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Re: Nationals vs Mets, Game 2
« Reply #275: September 07, 2010, 08:50:05 PM »
Ugh.  Kevin Mench.  :spaz:

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Re: Nationals vs Mets, Game 2
« Reply #276: September 07, 2010, 08:50:15 PM »
Back from walking the dog ... time for a crooked number.

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Re: Nationals vs Mets, Game 2
« Reply #277: September 07, 2010, 08:50:42 PM »
Why the hell is Kevin Mench on this team?

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Re: Nationals vs Mets, Game 2
« Reply #278: September 07, 2010, 08:50:45 PM »
Maya,Livo,Marquis,JZimm then 1 of the other 8 guys.

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Re: Nationals vs Mets, Game 2
« Reply #279: September 07, 2010, 08:51:00 PM »
Detwiler is looking a lot like Thornton.

Good call, JCA.

Yeah, I can see that too.  I've thought since Potomac that his eventual future would be as a reliever and I still believe that.  He will probably get a few more shots at starting, but I think he is better suited for the 'pen.

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Re: Nationals vs Mets, Game 2
« Reply #280: September 07, 2010, 08:51:41 PM »
Detwiler is looking a lot like Thornton.

Good call, JCA.

Matt Thornton? Isn't that dude a crazy fireballer?

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Re: Nationals vs Mets, Game 2
« Reply #281: September 07, 2010, 08:51:42 PM »
Maya,Livo,Marquis,JZimm then 1 of the other 8 guys.
Gotta have a lefty.

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Re: Nationals vs Mets, Game 2
« Reply #282: September 07, 2010, 08:51:49 PM »
Spin alert!

Bally is warming!
What? I didn't see that. He pitched last night!

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Re: Nationals vs Mets, Game 2
« Reply #283: September 07, 2010, 08:52:27 PM »
JZimm, Livo, Lannan, Detweiler, and Marquis. 

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Re: Nationals vs Mets, Game 2
« Reply #284: September 07, 2010, 08:52:28 PM »
Come on Danny, stay hot!

Offline PC

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Re: Nationals vs Mets, Game 2
« Reply #285: September 07, 2010, 08:52:28 PM »
Ray is telling us how terrible Gee is.

Offline natsfan4evr

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Re: Nationals vs Mets, Game 2
« Reply #286: September 07, 2010, 08:52:32 PM »
lol...the two guys we didn't expect to come through, did. Baseball is a funny sport

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Re: Nationals vs Mets, Game 2
« Reply #287: September 07, 2010, 08:53:11 PM »
lol... I guess with the nationals it's always "Backwards Day" or whatever.

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Re: Nationals vs Mets, Game 2
« Reply #288: September 07, 2010, 08:53:40 PM »
Espinosa has a real good, compact swing.  He can catch up to almost anything with a swing like that.

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Re: Nationals vs Mets, Game 2
« Reply #289: September 07, 2010, 08:54:11 PM »
Blah, blah, blah.  165 Ks in 161.1 IP.  4 to freaking 1 K/BB.  I don't care what service rates what player at what level.  Gee pitched well in AAA this year.  His only weakness was giving up too many hits but his peripherals all suggest that will come down.

And please, don't use a useless stat like ERA when discussing predictive pitching stats.  FIP is okay.
His MLE equivalent FIP is 5.03. The dude is at best mediocre. He shouldn't be dominating a big league lineup. You can keep hiding behind K's, but when was the last time a 24 year old pitcher who was never considered a prospect before had an Almost 5 ERA and over 4 FIP in AAA, then was real good in the big leagues? It doesn't happen.

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Re: Nationals vs Mets, Game 2
« Reply #290: September 07, 2010, 08:54:32 PM »
So, Ray... I take it that you think Gee sucks?

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Re: Nationals vs Mets, Game 2
« Reply #291: September 07, 2010, 08:56:14 PM »
DFA ESPINOSA :panic:

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Re: Nationals vs Mets, Game 2
« Reply #292: September 07, 2010, 08:56:14 PM »
This happens every time this team tries to go for its 4th win in a row. It seems like they'll finish the season with no more than a 3 game winning streak. That has to be some kind of record.

We are only down 3 runs.  Idk i dont think everything is lost yet.

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Re: Nationals vs Mets, Game 2
« Reply #293: September 07, 2010, 08:56:56 PM »
I'm watching the Mets broadcast, with Keith Hernandez and Ron Darling doing color. They were criticisziong Maya in the 1st, but came around. After those first batters, Mays looked OK. Detwiler...a bit wild.

Looks to me like Dillon Gee can pitch. He seems to have the Nats guessing on every pitch. To reference Warren Spahn, again, pitching is all about throwing off the hitter's timing: throwing the pitch he doesn't expect.

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Re: Nationals vs Mets, Game 2
« Reply #294: September 07, 2010, 08:57:16 PM »
So fking pathetic. 

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Re: Nationals vs Mets, Game 2
« Reply #295: September 07, 2010, 08:57:29 PM »
His MLE equivalent FIP is 5.03. The dude is at best mediocre. He shouldn't be dominating a big league lineup. You can keep hiding behind K's, but when was the last time a 24 year old pitcher who was never considered a prospect before had an Almost 5 ERA and over 4 FIP in AAA, then was real good in the big leagues? It doesn't happen.

Just about any pitcher can have a good game. This dude is pitching well tonight.

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Re: Nationals vs Mets, Game 2
« Reply #296: September 07, 2010, 08:57:45 PM »
His MLE equivalent FIP is 5.03.

And you found the magic MLE equivalency pitching calculator where?

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Re: Nationals vs Mets, Game 2
« Reply #297: September 07, 2010, 08:59:05 PM »
Just about any pitcher can have a good game. This dude is pitching well tonight.

Especially a guy who is a high K/9 guy who doesn't walk many batters going against people that just haven't seen him.  Still had a HR and another near HR.  Good contact the last 2-3 innings.

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Re: Nationals vs Mets, Game 2
« Reply #298: September 07, 2010, 08:59:05 PM »
And you found the magic MLE equivalency pitching calculator where?
4.07 FIP as a 24 year old in AAA. Either way, that translates to around 4.50 in the big leagues. Mediocre prospect. This bum shouldn't be dominating the Nats.

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Re: Nationals vs Mets, Game 2
« Reply #299: September 07, 2010, 08:59:37 PM »
His MLE equivalent FIP is 5.03. The dude is at best mediocre. He shouldn't be dominating a big league lineup. You can keep hiding behind K's, but when was the last time a 24 year old pitcher who was never considered a prospect before had an Almost 5 ERA and over 4 FIP in AAA, then was real good in the big leagues? It doesn't happen.

Well - maybe the Nats should just quit, then, since they're being dominated by such a terrible pitcher.  Is that what you're trying to say?

They're getting some good swings in but the hits may just not fall tonight - rookie pitcher or not.  That's just baseball.