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Re: Nationals @ Phillies, Game 1
« Reply #275: August 20, 2010, 09:30:53 PM »
How do you know it was a hit and run and not just a straight steal? I really don't think they'd hit and run there.

Why not?  They haven't been able to get runs in, so maybe get something going.  It wouldn't be the worst call ever.

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Re: Nationals @ Phillies, Game 1
« Reply #276: August 20, 2010, 09:31:06 PM »
Watch him hit a solo HR here...

Well, it was a hit...with no one on. Sad.

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Re: Nationals @ Phillies, Game 1
« Reply #277: August 20, 2010, 09:31:39 PM »
Bernadina won't be the 3rd out for the first time tonight.
He's young and Roy Halladay is not exactly a bum...even on his "off nights."

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Re: Nationals @ Phillies, Game 1
« Reply #278: August 20, 2010, 09:31:41 PM »
When the freak have I turned it into an excuse, I saw desmond take off and zim swing...who's to say it was/wasn't a straight steal or hit and run.  To me it looked like hit and run to get something going.

Look, on a hit and run, you aren't at the next bag by the time the pitch crosses the plate, as Desmond was.

It was a straight steal because Desmond was sliding into third by the time Zimmerman was swinging... had it been a hit and run, you actually wait to take off until the batter starts his swing... that's why when you see a busted hit and run, the runner gets thrown out by a mile... because they weren't going to make it on a steal. Desmond, had third base stolen easily if Zimmerman hadn't swung... because he stole. It was not a hit and run.

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Re: Nationals @ Phillies, Game 1
« Reply #279: August 20, 2010, 09:31:58 PM »
Oh now bernadina gets a hit...dibbs killing him tonight.

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Re: Nationals @ Phillies, Game 1
« Reply #280: August 20, 2010, 09:33:15 PM »
ooohh...he might have got him there...

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Re: Nationals @ Phillies, Game 1
« Reply #281: August 20, 2010, 09:33:20 PM »
Bernie seems to be out of it.

Please pinch hit Ramos here.

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Re: Nationals @ Phillies, Game 1
« Reply #282: August 20, 2010, 09:33:38 PM »
C'mon Pudge...

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Re: Nationals @ Phillies, Game 1
« Reply #283: August 20, 2010, 09:33:41 PM »
How do you know it was a hit and run and not just a straight steal? I really don't think they'd hit and run there.

Hit and run would be a ridiculous call. You open up a foot more room by forcing the third baseman to cover, Desmond is going to score anyway on a single to the OF from second. I wonder if the Phillies cover second and throw behind and get Dunn in that situation (double steal/botched hit and run).

I went back and watched it and Halladay gave Desmond really lazy looks and timing on the first two pitches to Zim. One look as he comes set and as soon as he turns away he's rolling to the plate. On that third pitch Desmond probably had him timed and decided to take the free base. Unfortunately, that's not really the safest count or wisest situation to try it and it backfired.

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Re: Nationals @ Phillies, Game 1
« Reply #284: August 20, 2010, 09:33:43 PM »
Huge opportunity here

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Re: Nationals @ Phillies, Game 1
« Reply #285: August 20, 2010, 09:34:13 PM »
What team does Pudge go in with?  Texas?

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Re: Nationals @ Phillies, Game 1
« Reply #286: August 20, 2010, 09:34:43 PM »
Look, on a hit and run, you aren't at the next bag by the time the pitch crosses the plate, as Desmond was.

It was a straight steal because Desmond was sliding into third by the time Zimmerman was swinging... had it been a hit and run, you actually wait to take off until the batter starts his swing... that's why when you see a busted hit and run, the runner gets thrown out by a mile... because they weren't going to make it on a steal. Desmond, had third base stolen easily if Zimmerman hadn't swung... because he stole. It was not a hit and run.

That's your opinion ... when I saw it looked like it was a hit and run.  I'm not sticking up for him I don't care who the freak was running.  Tough luck but that ball drops its a tie game.

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Re: Nationals @ Phillies, Game 1
« Reply #287: August 20, 2010, 09:34:47 PM »
the Phillies pen has finally settled down, hopefully they are due to blow one open.

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Re: Nationals @ Phillies, Game 1
« Reply #288: August 20, 2010, 09:35:28 PM »
Johnny Holliday runs 6 miles?

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Re: Nationals @ Phillies, Game 1
« Reply #289: August 20, 2010, 09:36:07 PM »
Johnny Holliday runs 6 miles?
Almost sounded like he was joking, but he looks pretty fit, so maybe...

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Re: Nationals @ Phillies, Game 1
« Reply #290: August 20, 2010, 09:36:54 PM »
Should of pinch hit Ramos there.

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Re: Nationals @ Phillies, Game 1
« Reply #291: August 20, 2010, 09:37:22 PM »
O.k. Kennedy. I have no faith in you whatsoever.

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Re: Nationals @ Phillies, Game 1
« Reply #292: August 20, 2010, 09:37:34 PM »
Halladay wasn't sharp tonight, we let him off the hook.

Another terrible loss by our low payroll ballclub 8)

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Re: Nationals @ Phillies, Game 1
« Reply #293: August 20, 2010, 09:37:34 PM »
C'mon Adam...

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Re: Nationals @ Phillies, Game 1
« Reply #294: August 20, 2010, 09:38:15 PM »
Toronto pounding Boston 15-0, Seattle beating NY 6-0, strange night

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Re: Nationals @ Phillies, Game 1
« Reply #295: August 20, 2010, 09:39:10 PM »
dang it...

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« Reply #297: August 20, 2010, 09:39:30 PM »
sigh

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Re: Nationals @ Phillies, Game 1
« Reply #298: August 20, 2010, 09:39:32 PM »
Toronto pounding Boston 15-0, Seattle beating NY 6-0, strange night

Sadly Bautista only has one home run tonight. I'm disappointed in him.

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Re: Nationals @ Phillies, Game 1
« Reply #299: August 20, 2010, 09:39:42 PM »
1-0 games don't happen often in that band box of a park