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Re: Nationals @ Braves, Game 3
« Reply #325: August 19, 2010, 03:11:51 PM »
There's something hilarious about having Fan dancing on my tv 10 times a day. Way better than the cryptkeeper from Fitzgerald auto mall.

haha i know.  i need to meet up with him @ The Yards tailgate.

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Re: Nationals @ Braves, Game 3
« Reply #326: August 19, 2010, 03:12:06 PM »
lol okay. 

It would be nice if those of you who want to ignore statistics could at least brush up on your English :whistle:

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Re: Nationals @ Braves, Game 3
« Reply #327: August 19, 2010, 03:12:14 PM »
[censored]lippard!

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Re: Nationals @ Braves, Game 3
« Reply #329: August 19, 2010, 03:12:51 PM »
Where's Sportsfan at? Is he hiding like a nag?

Yep, thought so.

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Re: Nationals @ Braves, Game 3
« Reply #330: August 19, 2010, 03:14:00 PM »
JMU or one of the folks who are comfortable using pitch/fx or looking at video - when this game is up on Brooks Baseball or whatever, could you look at Lannan's past few starts and some of the ones before he was sent down and see what sort of changes there have been to delivery, velocity, movement, etc ...?  Love to see someone explain the alchemy.

So, this would take me much longer to do a more in-depth look (such as isolating LH vs RH matchups or specific PA where he got beat/was successful), but I saw some obvious things on the pitch F/X data that stood out in terms of Lannan's starts when he was moderately to mostly successful vs the ones where he stunk.

-  The key seems to be his curve, something I have alluded to in a few of my posts.  In starts where he was successful, his curve ball dropped anywhere from an inch to two inches more.  In some bad starts he had good movement on the curve, but the difference was that his strike percentage for those curveballs was hovering around the 40% area when he was not successful, and closer to 60% when he was.  Also, in starts where he struggled with the feel or location of his curve, his release point was a few inches higher than when he did not struggle with feel or location with that pitch.

-  Differences in his changeup were also noticeable b/w good and bad starts.  When he has been on, the changeup was around 83-84 MPH with around 10 inches of horizontal break.  When he was off, the change was hovering around 81-82 MPH and had somewhere between 6-8.5 inches of horizontal break.

-  His two seamer, which runs away from righties and towards lefties, was breaking further away from righties in his better starts with less vertical movement and vice versa for the worse starts.

-  Since being called back up, the slider, change, and two seamer have been put in play at a much lower percentage than they were earlier in the year for Lannan.  He has also been getting a ridiculous amount of whiffs from his change since getting called back up.

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Re: Nationals @ Braves, Game 3
« Reply #331: August 19, 2010, 03:14:35 PM »
It would be nice if those of you who want to ignore statistics could at least brush up on your English :whistle:

okay 8)

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Re: Nationals @ Braves, Game 3
« Reply #332: August 19, 2010, 03:14:42 PM »
89mph with bad control is something you can find at any college game. His brain helped him have a few decent years.
Bad control. That's just laughable. How many bums with 89 mph fastballs and bad control can put up back-to-back Sub 4.00 ERA seasons in the Major Leagues as a starter?

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Re: Nationals @ Braves, Game 3
« Reply #333: August 19, 2010, 03:15:00 PM »
now that was a bad at bat by morgan ... but he's had a good game today.

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Re: Nationals @ Braves, Game 3
« Reply #334: August 19, 2010, 03:15:26 PM »
Thanks JMU, that's kickass.

I hate to do this, but I'm gonna take that to mean that his stuff is so marginal that if he's a tad bit off, he gets destroyed. I'd love to be proved wrong.

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Re: Nationals @ Braves, Game 3
« Reply #335: August 19, 2010, 03:15:34 PM »
I'm thinking of changing my username.  :|
Don't , Cannon isn't long for the board

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Re: Nationals @ Braves, Game 3
« Reply #336: August 19, 2010, 03:15:59 PM »
off subject, but the vikings percy harvin left practice via ambulance ... hopefully he's fine.

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Re: Nationals @ Braves, Game 3
« Reply #337: August 19, 2010, 03:16:47 PM »
Trade for Mike Dunn :shock:

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Re: Nationals @ Braves, Game 3
« Reply #338: August 19, 2010, 03:17:06 PM »
Bad control. That's just laughable. How many bums with 89 mph fastballs and bad control can put up back-to-back Sub 4.00 ERA seasons in the Major Leagues as a starter?

3 of his 4 seasons have come with a walk rate higher than the average MLB pitcher.

Quote from: Sportsfan882
Sportsfan882 is right again.

Idiot.

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Re: Nationals @ Braves, Game 3
« Reply #339: August 19, 2010, 03:17:11 PM »
I'm thinking of changing my username.  :|


Game.  The Nationals will never finish above .500 until PC gets an avatar.  This has been 110% accurate since 2005, for those tracking statistics, (including the CIA).


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Re: Nationals @ Braves, Game 3
« Reply #340: August 19, 2010, 03:17:36 PM »
off subject, but the vikings percy harvin left practice via ambulance ... hopefully he's fine.

He's fine. Migraine induced.

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Re: Nationals @ Braves, Game 3
« Reply #341: August 19, 2010, 03:18:13 PM »
ID is really drawing some more walks recently.  2-hole 8)

...c'mon spider where are you haha

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Re: Nationals @ Braves, Game 3
« Reply #342: August 19, 2010, 03:18:52 PM »
Sportsfan is back into hiding because he's been owned the entire thread.

Little nag can't take it when he's wrong... which is 99% of his life.

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Re: Nationals @ Braves, Game 3
« Reply #343: August 19, 2010, 03:18:54 PM »
Trade for Mike Dunn :shock:

haha :clap:

i'm sure the lerners will take it b/c we'll get him cheaper 8)

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Re: Nationals @ Braves, Game 3
« Reply #344: August 19, 2010, 03:19:29 PM »
haha :clap:

i'm sure the lerners will take it b/c we'll get him cheaper 8)

Dude, even I'm getting fed up with the LAC jabs.

They're getting tiring.

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Re: Nationals @ Braves, Game 3
« Reply #345: August 19, 2010, 03:19:51 PM »
I hate to do this, but I'm gonna take that to mean that his stuff is so marginal that if he's a tad bit off, he gets destroyed. I'd love to be proved wrong.

I'd have to say that is an accurate assessment (though he does have some pretty nice secondary pitches when he is on by no means marginal).  He needs his best stuff to be successful and when he has it, he could be a decent part of an MLB rotation.  Without looking at it in depth at the moment, I would venture to also guess that coming inside against (and getting beat by) lefties has been a major flaw as well.  With him, though, its all about consistency and he needs to show that he has some.

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Re: Nationals @ Braves, Game 3
« Reply #346: August 19, 2010, 03:19:53 PM »
7th complete, no runs, begin breathing again.

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Re: Nationals @ Braves, Game 3
« Reply #347: August 19, 2010, 03:20:28 PM »
Dude, even I'm getting fed up with the LAC jabs.

They're getting tiring.

It ruins good posts. It's crazy world. Who gives a crap about 2007? This team is taking off.

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Re: Nationals @ Braves, Game 3
« Reply #348: August 19, 2010, 03:20:55 PM »
Sportsfan is back into hiding because he's been owned the entire thread.

Little nag can't take it when he's wrong... which is 99% of his life.

99%'s a bit generous don't you think?

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Re: Nationals @ Braves, Game 3
« Reply #349: August 19, 2010, 03:21:16 PM »
99%'s a bit generous don't you think?

Yes, but Nathan thinks I've been a bit hard on him lately.