I think we're saying alot of the same things. There are plenty of problems, but everything starts with starting pitching. And the losing combined with these triple A pitchers just weighs the team down. Zim is flat, Pudge cooled of an Nyger just isn't good enough. The team fell to the cellar and is playing like losers. They need to be aggressive traders. The starting rotation is still the galring weakness and that had been the case for years.