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Re: Microsoft thread
« Reply #575: April 01, 2012, 08:58:19 PM »
Interesting... MSE is built into 8... looks exactly the same it's just called windows defender now.

Windows Defender came included in Vista and 7 too :razz:

but it used to be a spyware only thing, MSE had more protection, now I guess they're just going back to the Windows Defender name.  Good on them for including it, though.

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« Reply #576: April 01, 2012, 09:23:57 PM »
did you just copy and paste our conversation? :lol:

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« Reply #577: April 02, 2012, 07:48:47 PM »
Finally decided to shrink my OS X another 36 GB to throw the preview on my Mac Book Pro along side Windows 7.

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« Reply #578: April 08, 2012, 03:27:23 AM »
Whose idea was this?

www.bing.com

The bing homepage, presumably for Easter.

It's incredibly disturbing, especially the one on the right...

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« Reply #579: April 08, 2012, 03:33:31 AM »
IDK but on my iPhone, for the first time, I must say the bing site is pretty polished.  Text scrolling over the background without the background moving, 3D cube type effect swiping from news story to news story. 

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« Reply #580: April 13, 2012, 02:51:36 PM »
http://venturebeat.com/2012/04/13/windows-8-tablet-intel

Love the comment from Android Guy:

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It seems like Windows 8 is going to be a big thing. Intel and Microsoft may be teaming up to deliver a deathly blow to Apple.

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« Reply #581: April 13, 2012, 02:56:50 PM »
i'm sure people who have been dropping money on ios apps as well as itunes content for year will be eager to switch

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« Reply #582: April 13, 2012, 03:05:10 PM »
i'm sure people who have been dropping money on ios apps as well as itunes content for year will be eager to switch

Everyone loves the blue screen of death and registry errors.

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« Reply #583: April 13, 2012, 03:11:54 PM »
Everyone loves the blue screen of death and registry errors.

I know you're just doing your act but those are largely a thing of the past.

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« Reply #584: April 13, 2012, 03:13:07 PM »
i'm sure people who have been dropping money on ios apps as well as itunes content for year will be eager to switch

Apple's model is actually quite brilliant in that regard, I'll give them that.  Unfortunately everyone and their mother wants to emulate that model now, which leads to clusterfreaks like dozens of different services that all want to lock you in with their exclusive content.

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« Reply #585: April 13, 2012, 03:22:42 PM »
Everyone loves the blue screen of death and registry errors.

I doubt it'llbe that bad, but it will be a good test of whether tablets are for content consumption (ie iOS- stripped down, restricted, but works) or more serious work (windows- more powerful, but more complicated)

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« Reply #586: April 13, 2012, 03:24:19 PM »
I doubt it'llbe that bad, but it will be a good test of whether tablets are for content consumption (ie iOS- stripped down, restricted, but works) or more serious work (windows- more powerful, but more complicated)

Given that the ARM versions of 8 won't run Windows binaries anyway, I don't really see the point of even having the desktop mode on tablet versions of 8.  I was excited about the possibility of Transformer-like Win 8 machines, but unless somebody makes an x86-based tablet/converitble, Windows 8 seems destined to be a tablet OS first.

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« Reply #587: April 13, 2012, 03:49:17 PM »
I know you're just doing your act but those are largely a thing of the past.

BSOD, sure.  The registry?  Come on ICE, you know that's still going to be a pain in the ass. 

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« Reply #588: April 13, 2012, 03:51:10 PM »
BSOD, sure.  The registry?  Come on ICE, you know that's still going to be a pain in the ass. 

Depends on your environment I suppose.  I haven't even opened regedit on any of my personal machines in so long I can't remember.  Having to wade into the registry because of garbage 3rd party software is no different than dealing with libraries and plists for the same reason on Macs.

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« Reply #589: April 13, 2012, 04:04:27 PM »
Depends on your environment I suppose.  I haven't even opened regedit on any of my personal machines in so long I can't remember.  Having to wade into the registry because of garbage 3rd party software is no different than dealing with libraries and plists for the same reason on Macs.

Except the registry is one big ass thing where at least libraries and plists on OS X are separate folders/files.

I don't think I've had a BSOD since I was on XP at home back in '04.

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« Reply #590: April 13, 2012, 04:06:01 PM »
Except the registry is one big ass thing where at least libraries and plists on OS X are separate folders/files.

Shrug, semantics really.  Your whole hard drive is one "big ass thing".  Besides, there's nothing inherently better about either approach.

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« Reply #591: April 13, 2012, 04:10:49 PM »
I was under the impression that the registry can get corrupted which would cause all kinds of problems :shrug:

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« Reply #592: April 13, 2012, 04:15:34 PM »
The whole registry isn't stored in one file, but regardless I don't see how that's any different than saying "I was under the impression that XYZ system-critical files can get corrupted", which I feel quite certain applies to Macs as well.

Ruined file system permissions that bring Macs to a crawl are one of my favorite comps for a corrupted registry.

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« Reply #593: April 13, 2012, 04:40:24 PM »
The whole registry isn't stored in one file, but regardless I don't see how that's any different than saying "I was under the impression that XYZ system-critical files can get corrupted", which I feel quite certain applies to Macs as well.

Ruined file system permissions that bring Macs to a crawl are one of my favorite comps for a corrupted registry.

Right, but the way I THOUGHT it worked was it was one big database type thing.  So like program X could screw something up which would in turn screw up the entire thing, so nothing would work right.  Whereas on a Mac, program X could screw up, but it would only screw it's .plist files and not other programs stuff.  I don't know, I'm not a registry expert :P

And yes, "Repair permissions" is the de-facto Mac fix that you try after the tried and true reboot. :P

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« Reply #594: April 13, 2012, 04:48:31 PM »
Right, but the way I THOUGHT it worked was it was one big database type thing.  So like program X could screw something up which would in turn screw up the entire thing, so nothing would work right.  Whereas on a Mac, program X could screw up, but it would only screw it's .plist files and not other programs stuff.  I don't know, I'm not a registry expert :P

Unless a program is messing around in hives and keys it shouldn't be, I don't see how this would happen.  Even then, there may be security restrictions that would prevent this.  Like you, I'm not an "expert" on the matter.  Properly written and well-behaved 3rd party software is generally limited to its own key in HKLM\Software.  Anything maliciously or stupidly written and we're right back to making generalizations and Mac analogies.

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And yes, "Repair permissions" is the de-facto Mac fix that you try after the tried and true reboot. :P

Unless it's so freaked up that you can't even run the disk utility and have to reboot into single user mode and run fsck ;)

Modern computers are incredibly complex devices that are prone to failure on a curve proportional to user (or developer) stupidity.

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Re: Microsoft thread
« Reply #595: April 13, 2012, 04:49:40 PM »
Yeah, well fsck you too!

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« Reply #596: April 13, 2012, 04:50:21 PM »
fsck -fy

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« Reply #597: April 15, 2012, 02:45:58 PM »
PC will be thrilled to know that I've been dual-booting 7/8 both at home and work and have been using 8 more often than not lately.  I still think Metro on the desktop is mostly change for the sake of change, but there are enough things I like about 8 to get over it as a power user.  Still don't think it's going to fly in the business environment though.

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« Reply #598: April 15, 2012, 06:57:50 PM »
Still don't think it's going to fly in the business environment though.

Hell no.

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« Reply #599: April 15, 2012, 10:08:24 PM »
PC will be thrilled to know that I've been dual-booting 7/8 both at home and work and have been using 8 more often than not lately.  I still think Metro on the desktop is mostly change for the sake of change, but there are enough things I like about 8 to get over it as a power user.  Still don't think it's going to fly in the business environment though.

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