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Offline imref

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Galaragga's Imperfect Game
« Topic Start: June 03, 2010, 12:39:58 AM »
Because this needs its own thread.

Give credit to Joyce for realizing he screwed up:

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Then Joyce emphatically said he was wrong and later, in tears, hugged Galarraga and apologized.

"It was the biggest call of my career, and I kicked the [stuff] out of it," Joyce said, looking and sounding distraught as he paced in the umpires' locker room. "I just cost that kid a perfect game."

"I thought he beat the throw. I was convinced he beat the throw, until I saw the replay," he said after the Tigers' 3-0 win.

So do we get expanded instant replay now?

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Re: Galarraga's 28 out perfect game
« Reply #1: June 03, 2010, 12:41:09 AM »
In a situation like that just give the guy an out. I think the new saying should be "Tie goes to the runner unless its the 27th out"

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Re: Galarraga's 28 out perfect game
« Reply #2: June 03, 2010, 12:42:51 AM »
Or it hurts the Nationals! :D

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Re: Galarraga's 28 out perfect game
« Reply #3: June 03, 2010, 01:22:31 AM »
we have our own problems.

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Re: Galarraga's 28 out perfect game
« Reply #4: June 03, 2010, 01:33:22 AM »
"Best Interest of the Game", Bud Selig should say it's a perfect game.  Even if it means he has to declare that Jim Joyce cheated.

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Re: Galarraga's 28 out perfect game
« Reply #5: June 03, 2010, 01:48:40 AM »
I was just reading a column by someone saying that Selig shouldn't overturn the call and it occurred to me why Selig probably won't and it happened two nights ago, the "no-swing" call by Hohn in the 9th inning.

For every reason you can give for overturning the final out in the non-perfect game, you can give for overturning that Hohn call.  Selig isn't going to go down that road.

...unless he also declares that Hohn cheated.

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Re: Galarraga's 28 out perfect game
« Reply #6: June 03, 2010, 01:48:56 AM »
I'm not so mad about Galarraga losing his perfect game.  He's going to get recognition for this for a long time.  Dave Stieb has a little feature about him on the MLB Network Remembers series to this day.

I'm more disappointed for Austin Jackson, or really just the play itself.  Within that context, Jackson made one of the plays of the century, and now it's overshadowed and ruined by that awful call.

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Re: Galarraga's 28 out perfect game
« Reply #7: June 03, 2010, 01:53:25 AM »
Selig really needs to overturn this and make it a perfect game, not just so that Galarraga can get his perfect game, but so that Jim Joyce doesn't have to live with this for the rest of his life, but since Selig is a nutless bastard, he won't do it, and he'll try to sell us on some totally absurd reasoning for not doing it.

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Re: Galarraga's 28 out perfect game
« Reply #8: June 03, 2010, 06:13:24 AM »
Has an umpiring decision ever been overruled after the fact?

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Re: Galarraga's 28 out perfect game
« Reply #9: June 03, 2010, 07:41:02 AM »
Even if he did overturn it, you can't repeat the celebration that would have occurred.  Think of the stats it would mess up.  (Being devil's advocate here)

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Re: Galarraga's 28 out perfect game
« Reply #10: June 03, 2010, 07:45:31 AM »
Dear The Devil Herself,

It's no more of a statistical record blip than Roger Maris's 61 home run record in 1961.

Even if he did overturn it, you can't repeat the celebration that would have occurred.  Think of the stats it would mess up.  (Being devil's advocate here)

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Re: Galarraga's 28 out perfect game
« Reply #11: June 03, 2010, 07:57:15 AM »
"It's O.K. I know what I did."

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Re: Galarraga's 28 out perfect game
« Reply #12: June 03, 2010, 08:40:11 AM »
For every reason you can give for overturning the final out in the non-perfect game, you can give for overturning that Hohn call.  Selig isn't going to go down that road.

...unless he also declares that Hohn cheated.

The thing is perfect games are so rare that, unlike almost everyother situation in baseball, you can't say he'll get another shot at it with a straight face

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Re: Galarraga's 28 out perfect game
« Reply #13: June 03, 2010, 08:59:21 AM »
[...]
So do we get expanded instant replay now?



Unless they want regulation nine-inning ballgames to routinely run four hours (we all know how quick and efficient the NFL is with their 'instant' replay), they'd better not.

Some people are already beating the drums for it though:

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=Ar7N6K5Uw7sEkoYXUUNKSVQRvLYF?slug=jp-galarragareplay060210

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?columnist=stark_jayson&id=5245064

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Re: Galarraga's 28 out perfect game
« Reply #14: June 03, 2010, 09:04:47 AM »
"Best Interest of the Game", Bud Selig should say it's a perfect game.  Even if it means he has to declare that Jim Joyce cheated.

As noted on Mike & Mike this morning, Jason Donald has a two game hit streak, suppose they take away last night's hit and he goes on to hit in 52 straight, then what?

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Re: Galarraga's 28 out perfect game
« Reply #15: June 03, 2010, 09:09:11 AM »
Unless they want regulation nine-inning ballgames to routinely run four hours (we all know how quick and efficient the NFL is with their 'instant' replay), they'd better not.

Some people are already beating the drums for it though:

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=Ar7N6K5Uw7sEkoYXUUNKSVQRvLYF?slug=jp-galarragareplay060210

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?columnist=stark_jayson&id=5245064


i agree - replay sounds nice on paper, but becomes a pain the rear once implemented.

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Re: Galarraga's 28 out perfect game
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Re: Galarraga's 28 out perfect game
« Reply #17: June 03, 2010, 09:11:29 AM »
i agree - replay sounds nice on paper, but becomes a pain the rear once implemented.

Are juggled catches reviewed in the NFL? The ump ruled that Galaragga didn't have control of the ball. The official scorer has already said that there wasn't an error on the play, so he isn't going to change his ruling.

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Re: Galarraga's 28 out perfect game
« Reply #18: June 03, 2010, 09:14:51 AM »
Are juggled catches reviewed in the NFL? The ump ruled that Galaragga didn't have control of the ball. The official scorer has already said that there wasn't an error on the play, so he isn't going to change his ruling.

Joyce said afterwards he ruled safe because he thought the runner beat the throw.

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Re: Galarraga's 28 out perfect game
« Reply #19: June 03, 2010, 09:15:23 AM »
Selig can't overturn it... if he did, then he opens up every missed call in history to being overturned... and thus, it would look like he's playing favorites.

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Re: Galarraga's 28 out perfect game
« Reply #20: June 03, 2010, 09:16:33 AM »
i agree - replay sounds nice on paper, but becomes a pain the rear once implemented.

Like Communism.

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Re: Galarraga's 28 out perfect game
« Reply #21: June 03, 2010, 09:31:10 AM »
I'm more disappointed for Austin Jackson, or really just the play itself.  Within that context, Jackson made one of the plays of the century, and now it's overshadowed and ruined by that awful call.

That range was amazing. Then the catch. That was beautiful.

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Re: Galarraga's 28 out perfect game
« Reply #22: June 03, 2010, 09:32:07 AM »
That range was amazing. Then the catch. That was beautiful.

Barring a miracle, Jackson is AL ROY.

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Re: Galarraga's 28 out perfect game
« Reply #23: June 03, 2010, 09:32:32 AM »
Like Communism.

Yeah, that's what i was thinking of. :-)

Re: Galarraga's 28 out perfect game
« Reply #24: June 03, 2010, 09:42:43 AM »
Jim Joyce's Wiki page has been locked due to over-vandalism. :lol: