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Re: Nationals @ Padres, Game 1
« Reply #25: May 28, 2010, 10:24:44 PM »
Richard's a very solid pitcher. We need a QS from Lannan.

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« Reply #26: May 28, 2010, 10:25:17 PM »
Richard ERA down to 2.64 from 2.73 at the beginning of the game.

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« Reply #27: May 28, 2010, 10:25:58 PM »
I believe the rule states that the pitcher listed on the lineup card must pitch to at least one batter, this is to prevent pinch-hitting for a pitcher before he appears in the game.

I guess at this point all the Nats can do is protest the game if they lose, but I can't imagine the league would uphold the protest since the mistake didn't impact the game.

Exactly. Not a big deal.

How does someone make that mistake, though? Maybe the bench coach was bummed about the dude being sent down or something.

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« Reply #28: May 28, 2010, 10:26:30 PM »
I believe the rule states that the pitcher listed on the lineup card must pitch to at least one batter, this is to prevent pinch-hitting for a pitcher before he appears in the game.

I guess at this point all the Nats can do is protest the game if they lose, but I can't imagine the league would uphold the protest since the mistake didn't impact the game.

First, the Nationals have already protested but if the game is allowed to stand, what's the point in having the rule?

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Re: Nationals @ Padres, Game 1
« Reply #29: May 28, 2010, 10:27:18 PM »
I believe the rule states that the pitcher listed on the lineup card must pitch to at least one batter, this is to prevent pinch-hitting for a pitcher before he appears in the game.

I guess at this point all the Nats can do is protest the game if they lose, but I can't imagine the league would uphold the protest since the mistake didn't impact the game.

It hasn't impacted the game yet because it's not over but what if Ricard tosses a no hitter? Rule 3.05 9 (a) states:

 "The pitcher named in the batting order handed the umpire-in-chief, as provided in Rules 4.01 (a) and 4.01 (b), shall pitch to the first batter or any substitute batter until such batter is put out or reaches first base, unless the pitcher sustains injury or illness which, in the judgment of the umpire-in-chief, incapacitates him from pitching."

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Re: Nationals @ Padres, Game 1
« Reply #30: May 28, 2010, 10:27:32 PM »
The question is how can this be used by a team to give you an advantage?

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Re: Nationals @ Padres, Game 1
« Reply #31: May 28, 2010, 10:28:36 PM »
The question is how can this be used by a team to give you an advantage?

Announce a certain pitcher so that your opponent submits a certain favorable lineup and then switch it up at the last minute.  :icon_mrgreen:  Someone on the NAts should've spotted this and waited for the first pitch to be tossed then protested.

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Re: Nationals @ Padres, Game 1
« Reply #32: May 28, 2010, 10:29:29 PM »
what's the point in having the rule?

It's so they don't make a pitching change at the last second. Once the opposing team knows who the starter is, they can set their lineup. This was just a mistake. Everyone knew that Richard was starting.

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Re: Nationals @ Padres, Game 1
« Reply #33: May 28, 2010, 10:29:49 PM »
Richard's a very solid pitcher. We need a QS from Lannan.

added him to my main fantasy team yesterday.  Mixed emotions tonight. :-)

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Re: Nationals @ Padres, Game 1
« Reply #34: May 28, 2010, 10:31:03 PM »
The should have just been restarted.  That would solve the problem.

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« Reply #35: May 28, 2010, 10:32:13 PM »
It's so they don't make a pitching change at the last second. Once the opposing team knows who the starter is, they can set their lineup. This was just a mistake. Everyone knew that Richard was starting.

If the rule can be violated with no punishment, which is exactly what's happening right now, there's no point in having the rule.

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« Reply #36: May 28, 2010, 10:32:21 PM »
The should have just been restarted.  That would solve the problem.

the Padres should be forced to sign and start Brian Bruney in their next game against the Nats as punishment.

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« Reply #37: May 28, 2010, 10:32:50 PM »
If the rule can be violated with no punishment, which is exactly what's happening right now, there's no point in having the rule.

i see your point, but there was no intent to cheat here, it was a simple mistake.  It's silly to make a big deal of this.

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« Reply #38: May 28, 2010, 10:33:56 PM »
CBS Sportsline has Morse listed as a reserve SS tonight.

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« Reply #39: May 28, 2010, 10:33:59 PM »
No-hitter broken up. :clap:

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Re: Nationals @ Padres, Game 1
« Reply #40: May 28, 2010, 10:34:23 PM »
Nieves with his patented right field slapper.

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« Reply #41: May 28, 2010, 10:34:34 PM »
No hitter broken!

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« Reply #42: May 28, 2010, 10:34:36 PM »
the Padres should be forced to sign and start Brian Bruney in their next game against the Nats as punishment.

That's even more appropriate!

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« Reply #43: May 28, 2010, 10:34:44 PM »
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« Reply #44: May 28, 2010, 10:35:07 PM »
Might as well declare it now.

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« Reply #45: May 28, 2010, 10:35:24 PM »
Did Carp just make it sound like he and Dibble are roommates on the road?

Also, didn't realize Nieves had been in pro ball since '95.

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« Reply #46: May 28, 2010, 10:36:05 PM »
Might as well declare it now.

I'm keeping my powder dry!

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« Reply #47: May 28, 2010, 10:36:51 PM »
how are the Padres 9 games over .500 with this lineup?  Outside of Gonzales, there's nobody to fear.

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Re: Nationals @ Padres, Game 1
« Reply #48: May 28, 2010, 10:37:26 PM »
Looks like Nieves started playing in the minors in '96 but he may have played a year in Puerto Rico before that.

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Re: Nationals @ Padres, Game 1
« Reply #49: May 28, 2010, 10:37:30 PM »
i see your point, but there was no intent to cheat here, it was a simple mistake.  It's silly to make a big deal of this.
Doesn't matter.  My car doesn't have cruise control and occasionally I lose track of how fast I'm actually going.  A couple of times I've been pulled over and the cop didn't ask what my intent was.  I still got a ticket.