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Offline Evolution33

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Re: Nationals vs Braves, Game 3
« Reply #25: May 06, 2010, 02:15:57 PM »
post of the year?  i think so.



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Re: Nationals vs Braves, Game 3
« Reply #26: May 06, 2010, 03:31:43 PM »
We've got the A- lineup going today.

Morgan - CF
Kennedy - 2B
Zimmerman - 3B
Dunn - 1B
Willingham - LF
Rodriguez - C
Desmond - SS
Bernadina - RF
Olsen - P

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Re: Nationals vs Braves, Game 3
« Reply #27: May 06, 2010, 03:35:58 PM »
We've got the A- lineup going today.

Morgan - CF
Kennedy - 2B
Zimmerman - 3B
Dunn - 1B
Willingham - LF
Rodriguez - C
Desmond - SS
Bernadina - RF
Olsen - P

Nice, I really like the line-up. :clap:

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Re: Nationals vs Braves, Game 3
« Reply #28: May 06, 2010, 03:39:04 PM »
2 straight days without Cristian Guzman starting. Does this mean that Riggleman has finally changed?  :shock:

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Re: Nationals vs Braves, Game 3
« Reply #29: May 06, 2010, 03:40:09 PM »
Nice, I really like the line-up. :clap:

I'm still not satisfied.  They need to stop batting Kennedy 2nd.  He's been objectively awful this year.

Just put Desmond at 2 already.

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Re: Nationals vs Braves, Game 3
« Reply #30: May 06, 2010, 03:42:55 PM »
I was ready to shoot Knorr down but damn, I didn't realize how much better Desmond has been batting 2nd :shock:

Split         G GS PA AB R  H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO   BA  OBP  SLG   OPS TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB ROE BAbip tOPS+ sOPS+
Batting 2nd   6  5 27 26 5 10  2  1  1   5  3  0  0  6 .385 .385 .654 1.038 17   1   0  1  0   0   0  .474   163   172
Batting 6th   5  5 20 16 2  3  0  0  0   0  0  0  2  2 .188 .278 .188  .465  3   1   0  2  0   1   0  .214    30    30
Batting 7th   6  5 20 20 2  3  2  0  1   4  0  0  0  6 .150 .150 .400  .550  8   0   0  0  0   0   1  .154    33    50
Batting 8th   6  6 23 19 3  5  1  1  1   5  0  0  4  5 .263 .391 .579  .970 11   0   0  0  0   0   0  .308   149   169

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Re: Nationals vs Braves, Game 3
« Reply #31: May 06, 2010, 03:45:36 PM »
Proof that you just pick arguments for the freak of it.  You can't dispute that Kennedy has been terrible this year.

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Re: Nationals vs Braves, Game 3
« Reply #32: May 06, 2010, 03:46:08 PM »
Desmond is the future 2 hole hitter. Riggleman does sometimes have a bit of outdated thinking in rookies having to pay their dues but I will take this flaw over a manager that isn't aware of what is going on in the game. Besides is there a manager without a flaw?

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Re: Nationals vs Braves, Game 3
« Reply #33: May 06, 2010, 03:46:47 PM »
I was ready to shoot Knorr down but damn, I didn't realize how much better Desmond has been batting 2nd :shock:

Split         G GS PA AB R  H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO   BA  OBP  SLG   OPS TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB ROE BAbip tOPS+ sOPS+
Batting 2nd   6  5 27 26 5 10  2  1  1   5  3  0  0  6 .385 .385 .654 1.038 17   1   0  1  0   0   0  .474   163   172
Batting 6th   5  5 20 16 2  3  0  0  0   0  0  0  2  2 .188 .278 .188  .465  3   1   0  2  0   1   0  .214    30    30
Batting 7th   6  5 20 20 2  3  2  0  1   4  0  0  0  6 .150 .150 .400  .550  8   0   0  0  0   0   1  .154    33    50
Batting 8th   6  6 23 19 3  5  1  1  1   5  0  0  4  5 .263 .391 .579  .970 11   0   0  0  0   0   0  .308   149   169

Mildly decieving.  He really has only hit in the 2 hole when he's faced lefties, so really, those may as well be his right/left splits.

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Re: Nationals vs Braves, Game 3
« Reply #34: May 06, 2010, 03:47:33 PM »
I'm still not satisfied.  They need to stop batting Kennedy 2nd.  He's been objectively awful this year.

Just put Desmond at 2 already.
This is why  I didn't call it the A+ or A lineup.

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Re: Nationals vs Braves, Game 3
« Reply #35: May 06, 2010, 03:48:24 PM »
Proof that you just pick arguments for the freak of it.  You can't dispute that Kennedy has been terrible this year.

:wtf:

I led the call for Kennedy to get his first beachball, dude :crazy:

I was going to shoot you down because Desmond has been doing well, and I don't mind him hitting near the bottom with Pudge.  But I hadn't realized his numbers were so much better up top.  Relax and take the compliment.

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Re: Nationals vs Braves, Game 3
« Reply #36: May 06, 2010, 03:49:22 PM »
I was ready to shoot Knorr down but damn, I didn't realize how much better Desmond has been batting 2nd :shock:

Split         G GS PA AB R  H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO   BA  OBP  SLG   OPS TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB ROE BAbip tOPS+ sOPS+
Batting 2nd   6  5 27 26 5 10  2  1  1   5  3  0  0  6 .385 .385 .654 1.038 17   1   0  1  0   0   0  .474   163   172
Batting 6th   5  5 20 16 2  3  0  0  0   0  0  0  2  2 .188 .278 .188  .465  3   1   0  2  0   1   0  .214    30    30
Batting 7th   6  5 20 20 2  3  2  0  1   4  0  0  0  6 .150 .150 .400  .550  8   0   0  0  0   0   1  .154    33    50
Batting 8th   6  6 23 19 3  5  1  1  1   5  0  0  4  5 .263 .391 .579  .970 11   0   0  0  0   0   0  .308   149   169


I'd rather have Desmond bat in the 2 hole as well, but for arguments sake I wonder what pitchers he has faced while batting 2nd compared to 6th or 7th because that could also contribute. I also wonder if Riggleman has Kennedy batting 2nd because of the R/L aspect.

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Re: Nationals vs Braves, Game 3
« Reply #37: May 06, 2010, 03:56:13 PM »
I was ready to shoot Knorr down but damn, I didn't realize how much better Desmond has been batting 2nd :shock:

Split         G GS PA AB R  H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO   BA  OBP  SLG   OPS TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB ROE BAbip tOPS+ sOPS+
Batting 2nd   6  5 27 26 5 10  2  1  1   5  3  0  0  6 .385 .385 .654 1.038 17   1   0  1  0   0   0  .474   163   172
Batting 6th   5  5 20 16 2  3  0  0  0   0  0  0  2  2 .188 .278 .188  .465  3   1   0  2  0   1   0  .214    30    30
Batting 7th   6  5 20 20 2  3  2  0  1   4  0  0  0  6 .150 .150 .400  .550  8   0   0  0  0   0   1  .154    33    50
Batting 8th   6  6 23 19 3  5  1  1  1   5  0  0  4  5 .263 .391 .579  .970 11   0   0  0  0   0   0  .308   149   169


i've been preaching that since the start of the season.  but have been shot down by some on here who say he needs to learn :crazy:

who cares ... he's killing the ball in the 2-spot leave him there.

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Re: Nationals vs Braves, Game 3
« Reply #38: May 06, 2010, 03:56:53 PM »
I'd rather have Desmond bat in the 2 hole as well, but for arguments sake I wonder what pitchers he has faced while batting 2nd compared to 6th or 7th because that could also contribute. I also wonder if Riggleman has Kennedy batting 2nd because of the R/L aspect.

i think Desmond in the 2 hole is the lefty line-up so we would need his splits vs lefties as well to fully judge.

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Re: Nationals vs Braves, Game 3
« Reply #39: May 06, 2010, 03:57:40 PM »
Nice, I really like the line-up. :clap:

Switch Bernadina for Harris and it's the best we've got.

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Re: Nationals vs Braves, Game 3
« Reply #40: May 06, 2010, 03:58:34 PM »
Switch Bernadina for Harris and it's the best we've got.
True, but Bernie's been swinging it really well the past few games or so.

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Re: Nationals vs Braves, Game 3
« Reply #41: May 06, 2010, 03:59:32 PM »
:wtf:

I led the call for Kennedy to get his first beachball, dude :crazy:

I was going to shoot you down because Desmond has been doing well, and I don't mind him hitting near the bottom with Pudge.  But I hadn't realized his numbers were so much better up top.  Relax and take the compliment.

:lmao: His numbers aren't bad hitting 8th.  What I like is that he seems to adjust to the appropriate situations in the line-up.  More walks hitting 8th, more base hits against fastballs hitting 2nd.

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Re: Nationals vs Braves, Game 3
« Reply #42: May 06, 2010, 04:00:40 PM »
Just put Desmond at 2 already.

Agree.  Desmond looks like he could be a stud hitting and fielding.

And can you imagine if Bernadina really starts hitting ... and Strasburg shows up soon and maybe Wang and Zimmermann ...

I'm sorry, I can't help it.

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Re: Nationals vs Braves, Game 3
« Reply #43: May 06, 2010, 04:01:14 PM »
:lmao: His numbers aren't bad hitting 8th.

Good thing I didn't say that then, huh? :hammer:

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Re: Nationals vs Braves, Game 3
« Reply #44: May 06, 2010, 04:02:58 PM »
RE:  Desmond:

Dibbs was saying on XM this morning that the decision to keep Desmond near the bottom right now is a good one because there seems to be a trend developing in the NL with speed at the 1-2 spots, power at 3-5 or 6 and then speed again at 7-8 with the pitcher 9th to bunt.  He said having a good #7 is almost the big key.

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Re: Nationals vs Braves, Game 3
« Reply #45: May 06, 2010, 04:04:33 PM »
i think Desmond in the 2 hole is the lefty line-up so we would need his splits vs lefties as well to fully judge.

His OPS is .350 higher against lefties. His OPS against righties is .125 higher than Kennedy's.

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Re: Nationals vs Braves, Game 3
« Reply #46: May 06, 2010, 04:04:36 PM »
Good thing I didn't say that then, huh? :hammer:

I'm not debating you, just an observation.  I like that he adjusts to different line-up spots.

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Re: Nationals vs Braves, Game 3
« Reply #47: May 06, 2010, 04:11:10 PM »
I'm not debating you, just an observation.  I like that he adjusts to different line-up spots.

Oddly I don't remember him getting a triple batting 8th, when was that?

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Re: Nationals vs Braves, Game 3
« Reply #48: May 06, 2010, 04:17:27 PM »
i'll have the braves line-up in a few ... thanks.

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Re: Nationals vs Braves, Game 3
« Reply #49: May 06, 2010, 04:17:54 PM »
We've got the A- lineup going today.

Morgan - CF
Kennedy - 2B
Zimmerman - 3B
Dunn - 1B
Willingham - LF
Rodriguez - C
Desmond - SS
Bernadina - RF
Olsen - P

Thanks.
Looks like I picked a good night to go out there for the first time this season.