Author Topic: Ryan Howard Agrees to 5yr/$125 million contract  (Read 1033 times)

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Offline CJames0569

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Seems like a lot of money for Howard, but I do like that it isn't long term so they dont' have to pay during his decline years.

Offline hammondsnats

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:shock:  wow

damn shame we have to continue to see him for years to come.

Offline CJames0569

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I didn't realize Howard was already 30  :shock:

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Seems like a lot of money for Howard, but I do like that it isn't long term so they dont' have to pay during his decline years.

Wait, I wish they WERE stuck with them. I neve wish injuries on opposing teams, but terrible contracts and suck-ass players make me giddy.

Offline CJames0569

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Wait, I wish they WERE stuck with them. I neve wish injuries on opposing teams, but terrible contracts and suck-ass players make me giddy.

Oh me too, but at first glance I thought $25 million a year was a lot for great slugging 1st baseman who is decent to above average with the glove. Someone refresh my memory, how does this stack up with Teixeira's contract? I know his was 8 years.


Edit: Teixeira's contract is 8 yrs/$180 million.

Offline bklynnats

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If this is what Howard gets, I can only imagine the figure it's going to take to sign Pujols...

Offline Kevrock

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That's a lot of money.

What kind of funds do the Philthies have? How long can they keep this high a payroll going? When will they suck again? ;)

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That's hilarious.

This is one of the worst contracts in baseball history.

Thanks, Amaro!

Offline PatsNats28

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Terrible deal lmao... Howard's one of those guys who will suddenly have an Ortiz-like collapse.

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Just for craps and giggles... lets look at 5 other players that were deemed 'similar' by stats through their age 29 season... according to Baseball-Reference.

1. Richie Sexson (Flamed out at age 32)
2. Cecil Fielder (Flamed out at age 32)
3. Mo Vaughn (Flamed out at age 34)
4. Willie McCovey (Hall of Famer)
5. David Ortiz (Flamed out at age 32)

Notice a pattern? Guys like Howard do not last past their early 30's. Here's the problem... Howard turns 31 in November. The Phillies could be looking at the worst contract in baseball in just a few seasons unless Howard can reverse the aging process that so many of his peers could not.


Offline PatsNats28

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And best of all, the contract doesn't start until 2012. He's 30 now, if he flames out at 32, that's 2012 and they've still gotta pay him 100 million for the next 4 years LMAO

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Strasburg will make Howard look foolish :twisted:

Offline hammondsnats

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If this is what Howard gets, I can only imagine the figure it's going to take to sign Pujols...

exactly ... i told my dad today, well pujols is smiling in st. louis today ... he knows he'll crush that amount.

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Did anyone realize Dunn was only 10 days older than Ryan Howard?

I thought it was years apart.


Offline bklynnats

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I thought they were years apart too, wow. Either Howard looks young for his age or Donkey looks  :old:

Offline blue911

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It appears Jayson Werth will become a free agent.  :woop:

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Does anyone think this deal will hurt our contract talks with Dunn?

Since 2007:

Howard OPS: .922
Dunn OPS: .917

Shouldn't Dunn have every right to expect a similar deal?

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Does anyone think this deal will hurt our contract talks with Dunn?

Since 2007:

Howard OPS: .922
Dunn OPS: .917

Shouldn't Dunn have every right to expect a similar deal?

He has a right to, but good luck getting it.

Offline PANatsFan

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He has a right to, but good luck getting it.

Ben's push poll alluded to this.

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Does anyone think this deal will hurt our contract talks with Dunn?

Since 2007:

Howard OPS: .922
Dunn OPS: .917

Shouldn't Dunn have every right to expect a similar deal?

Only if Dunn can have Rollins and Utley ahead of him in the lineup.

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Offline imref

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they could have traded for chris marrero for far less money.

http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/the-ryan-howard-deal-examining-a-baby-albatross/

Wow, this is an interesting read.

And I ultimately agree with it all. In a few years it is going to be a beautiful thing the Philly despair. Karma is going to be such a nag to that team.

Offline nattybred

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What a horrible deal for the philths.  Fattys like Howard age faster and are more injury prone, plus he's over 30..  Can't wait for this to bite South Jersey in the ass.