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Offline EdStroud

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Re: Nationals vs Phillies, Game 2
« Reply #50: September 09, 2009, 07:57:59 PM »
JMax bullett to hard to handle

Offline UMDNats

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Re: Nationals vs Phillies, Game 2
« Reply #51: September 09, 2009, 07:58:30 PM »

Does he really think the team can do worse than losing 9 in a row?

Maybe he thinks that by playing Desmond over 1-20 Guzman would damage our playoff hopes :lmao:

Offline sportsfan882

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Re: Nationals vs Phillies, Game 2
« Reply #52: September 09, 2009, 07:58:52 PM »
I once had respect for Riggleman but now I will always remember him as just another mediocre loser during these years of shame.

He's clueless.

Offline sportsfan882

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Re: Nationals vs Phillies, Game 2
« Reply #53: September 09, 2009, 07:59:38 PM »
Maybe he thinks that by playing Desmond over 1-20 Guzman would damage our playoff hopes :lmao:
so dumb. :hang:

i'm stunned rizzo didn't tell him who to play.

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Re: Nationals vs Phillies, Game 2
« Reply #54: September 09, 2009, 07:59:44 PM »
Maybe if you play some of the call-ups, they'll be better than the regulars and we'll actually win instead of losing! :roll:

Offline UMDNats

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Re: Nationals vs Phillies, Game 2
« Reply #55: September 09, 2009, 08:01:10 PM »
Maybe if you play some of the call-ups, they'll be better than the regulars and we'll actually win instead of losing! :roll:

And maybe...just maybe...they'll TRY 110% because they know this might be their only chance to play?

Offline PANatsFan

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Re: Nationals vs Phillies, Game 2
« Reply #56: September 09, 2009, 08:02:36 PM »

Offline sportsfan882

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Re: Nationals vs Phillies, Game 2
« Reply #57: September 09, 2009, 08:02:37 PM »
And maybe...just maybe...they'll TRY 110% because they know this might be their only chance to play?
exactly. Desmond has worked so long and hard to reach this point. He hit his ass off in AAA over the last few months just to earn the right to play up here.

How dare Riggleman deny him the right to prove himself.

Offline EdStroud

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Re: Nationals vs Phillies, Game 2
« Reply #58: September 09, 2009, 08:03:10 PM »
And maybe...just maybe...they'll TRY 110% because they know this might be their only chance to play?
In your opinion which of the Nationals players in the game tonight are not trying?

Offline UMDNats

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Re: Nationals vs Phillies, Game 2
« Reply #59: September 09, 2009, 08:04:17 PM »
In your opinion which of the Nationals players in the game tonight are not trying?

It's not that they're not trying, it's that I think younger kids who may never have a shot again will play harder more consistently in September than veterans who are just playing because it's their job.

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Re: Nationals vs Phillies, Game 2
« Reply #60: September 09, 2009, 08:04:57 PM »
exactly. Desmond has worked so long and hard to reach this point. He hit his ass off in AAA over the last few months just to earn the right to play up here. join Mike Morse on the bench

How dare Riggleman deny him the right to prove himself.

Offline mitlen

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Re: Nationals vs Phillies, Game 2
« Reply #61: September 09, 2009, 08:07:39 PM »
JMax bullett to hard to handle

May I digress ... Otis Redding "Too Hard to Handle" ... Tx Ed

Offline EdStroud

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Re: Nationals vs Phillies, Game 2
« Reply #62: September 09, 2009, 08:08:02 PM »
It's not that they're not trying, it's that I think younger kids who may never have a shot again will play harder more consistently in September than veterans who are just playing because it's their job.
I get your point, but believe all the veterans know they are playing to keep their jobs.  I think that the younger players should be worked into the line-up(2nd,SS and OFers) maybe even every other day.

Offline GMUNat

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Re: Nationals vs Phillies, Game 2
« Reply #63: September 09, 2009, 08:09:43 PM »
We are already being fair to the other teams by sucking and giving them free wins. They don't need anything more.

Offline UMDNats

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Re: Nationals vs Phillies, Game 2
« Reply #64: September 09, 2009, 08:11:30 PM »
I get your point, but believe all the veterans know they are playing to keep their jobs.  I think that the younger players should be worked into the line-up(2nd,SS and OFers) maybe even every other day.

I disagree. Veterans like Zimmerman, Dunn, and Willingham have cushy jobs locked up for next year. Guzman has never, ever been challenged for a job and knows the team is hesitant to move him anywhere in the lineup or even off the field. And for those guys, the last month is just to go through the motions and get to October. They're playing for, at the most, statistics. We have younger guys who have a chance to push the veterans for jobs but Riggleman is more concerned about being fair to all the other teams we play.

For the most part, players like Gonzalez, Bard, Nieves, etc just flat-out suck and I can't really blame them for that.

Offline UMDNats

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Re: Nationals vs Phillies, Game 2
« Reply #65: September 09, 2009, 08:16:04 PM »
Is there a reason the team isn't going to play Flores? (Did he have a rehab assigment?)

Offline sportsfan882

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Re: Nationals vs Phillies, Game 2
« Reply #66: September 09, 2009, 08:17:46 PM »
just another pathetic offensive performance by the Nats. they score early and then punt the rest of the game.

Is there a reason the team isn't going to play Flores? (Did he have a rehab assigment?)
I wouldn't start him at this point but there is no reason not to give him some ABs. thanks Jim.

Offline EdStroud

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Re: Nationals vs Phillies, Game 2
« Reply #67: September 09, 2009, 08:19:57 PM »
I disagree. Veterans like Zimmerman, Dunn, and Willingham have cushy jobs locked up for next year. Guzman has never, ever been challenged for a job and knows the team is hesitant to move him anywhere in the lineup or even off the field. And for those guys, the last month is just to go through the motions and get to October. They're playing for, at the most, statistics. We have younger guys who have a chance to push the veterans for jobs but Riggleman is more concerned about being fair to all the other teams we play.

For the most part, players like Gonzalez, Bard, Nieves, etc just flat-out suck and I can't really blame them for that.
The being fair to other clubs is the only thing a manager in Riggleman's situation can say.  If he said that the Nats should only play the kids then the vets would revolt.  By using the we have to play our best players he keeps the vets happy and hasn't degraded the youngsters by saying they are not ready or good enough.  Riggleman (stay or go) can't win in this bad a situation.

Offline mitlen

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Re: Nationals vs Phillies, Game 2
« Reply #68: September 09, 2009, 08:26:28 PM »
Serve up them taters boys.

Offline EdStroud

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Re: Nationals vs Phillies, Game 2
« Reply #69: September 09, 2009, 08:26:39 PM »
Babe Ruth isn't dead he is RAUL IBANEZ

Offline UMDNats

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Re: Nationals vs Phillies, Game 2
« Reply #70: September 09, 2009, 08:26:39 PM »
The being fair to other clubs is the only thing a manager in Riggleman's situation can say.  If he said that the Nats should only play the kids then the vets would revolt.  By using the we have to play our best players he keeps the vets happy and hasn't degraded the youngsters by saying they are not ready or good enough.  Riggleman (stay or go) can't win in this bad a situation.

He doesn't have to say anything about "being far to the opposing teams." He can just say he thinks the veterans deserve to play because they give us the best chance to win. My response to that is that the veterans, namely Guzman, have been around all year and have slumped like crazy the last 2 weeks. They have one win in the last 2 weeks. Sweet!

We're the only terrible team in baseball that trots out veterans like Pete Orr every night.

I bet Desmond gets a MAX of two starts by October.

Offline sportsfan882

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Re: Nationals vs Phillies, Game 2
« Reply #71: September 09, 2009, 08:28:06 PM »
man Mock is bad.

wow. Ibanez would be the MVP if he played the Nats every game.

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Re: Nationals vs Phillies, Game 2
« Reply #72: September 09, 2009, 08:31:53 PM »
Isn't swinging more dangerous than catching?

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Re: Nationals vs Phillies, Game 2
« Reply #73: September 09, 2009, 08:32:06 PM »
AlGo 2/2 with 2 doubles

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Re: Nationals vs Phillies, Game 2
« Reply #74: September 09, 2009, 08:32:55 PM »
nice work by maxwell