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But it is moreso with him. All pitchers want to stay in. But you can tell when a Smoltz is done. I've seen Livo go 150, and it means nothing for him to go 130. He's the rare rubber arm. He knows how to pitch in a way that puts little stress on his arm. In his mind, he pitches the entire game. It is not a question of pitch counts. It is a question of whether he is effective. Riggs can't treat him like the others. As long as the game is within a couple of runs, Livo should continue.
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