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Offline nyexpofan

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it was really silly because you have Vidro on deck - i'd rather let clayton swing away with sori at 2nd and worse case, tou have vidro up with 2 outs.

Offline Dave B

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and soriano is good at taking third.  as long as it wasnt the first or third out at third it is fine

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If you don't attempt the steal, you give Vidro a chance to knock in Soriano with a single.

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O connor is getting a lot of groudball outs. You got to luv that, as opposed to the pitchers on our staff that get a lot of flyball outs

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you steal because clayton sucks and is probably going to make an out and you just hope it can score soriano.  also its 0-2 so it might not be a good pitch to throw on.


Actually you don't steal because Vidro is at bat after Clayton and he has a chance to bring you home with two outs.  Sometimes you have to think big picture.

And assuming, he assumed that Clayton wouldn't get a hit, even if the steal would have been successful, Vidro would still have to get a hit with two outs to bring Soriano home from third.

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soriano steals bases with probably 80 percent success rate.  clayton gets a hit 25 percent of the time. vidro 35 percent.  i'll take my chances with sori stealing and clayton making contact or vidro getting a hit.

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soriano steals bases with probably 80 percent success rate.  clayton gets a hit 25 percent of the time. vidro 35 percent.  i'll take my chances with sori stealing and clayton making contact or vidro getting a hit.


But he would have still needed a hit from Vidro, whether he was at second or third.

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I don't mind that Soriano was trying to steal, I just wish he would've been a little more careful about it.

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I don't mind that Soriano was trying to steal, I just wish he would've been a little more careful about it.


I mind him stealing at that particular moment in this particular game.

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8 in a row retired by O'Connor.. He has thrown 79 pitches through 5 innings. Maybe 1 or 2 more innings.

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you steal because clayton sucks and is probably going to make an out and you just hope it can score soriano.  also its 0-2 so it might not be a good pitch to throw on.


Actually you don't steal because Vidro is at bat after Clayton and he has a chance to bring you home with two outs.  Sometimes you have to think big picture.

And assuming, he assumed that Clayton wouldn't get a hit, even if the steal would have been successful, Vidro would still have to get a hit with two outs to bring Soriano home from third.


vidro is good and he only gets a hit 35 percent of the time. those not good chances.  you have a guy like soriano so he can steal third and score and claytons dribbler.

chance of clayton or vidro hit is 60 percent

i think the combination of sori stealin plus clayton making decent enough contact to score him is greater than that

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soriano steals bases with probably 80 percent success rate.  clayton gets a hit 25 percent of the time. vidro 35 percent.  i'll take my chances with sori stealing and clayton making contact or vidro getting a hit.


But he would have still needed a hit from Vidro, whether he was at second or third.


no claytons nag groundball to 2b would have scored him

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Mets are pounding on the D-Back n the botton of the 2. Four runs in the innings.

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soriano steals bases with probably 80 percent success rate.  clayton gets a hit 25 percent of the time. vidro 35 percent.  i'll take my chances with sori stealing and clayton making contact or vidro getting a hit.


But he would have still needed a hit from Vidro, whether he was at second or third.


no claytons nag groundball to 2b would have scored him


But he wouldn't have known that Clayton's out was one that he would be able to score on.

But frankly, I wouldn't have trusted either of them, Clayton or Vidro, they way they're hitting tonight.  They're 0-6 combined.

Offline PC

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Thiis the the biggest inning of the game for O'Connor.  The meat of their batting order is coming up and, in the next inning, we're at the end of our batting order.

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Well, it is up to Majewski now.

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whats the holdup. Gameday is frozen again

Offline nyexpofan

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what with oconnor -  injured?

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soriano steals bases with probably 80 percent success rate.  clayton gets a hit 25 percent of the time. vidro 35 percent.  i'll take my chances with sori stealing and clayton making contact or vidro getting a hit.


But he would have still needed a hit from Vidro, whether he was at second or third.


no claytons nag groundball to 2b would have scored him


But he wouldn't have known that Clayton's out was one that he would be able to score on.

But frankly, I wouldn't have trusted either of them, Clayton or Vidro, they way they're hitting tonight.  They're 0-6 combined.



but the chances that clayton puts the ball in play well enough are greater than the chance of vidro getting a hit. that is just how i feel.

if you wouldnt steal third there, then a leadoff man would never steal third, because our number 2 hitter sucks so much.  if vidro and johnson were up instead of clayton and vidro, i'd probably make him stay at 2nd

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O'Connor wanted to stay, but Frank yanked him.

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Call to the Bull Pen?  Bring out the reliever ON THE SCREAMIN' EAGLE BABAYYYYY!!!!!

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Rreally don't understand the move. Abrea is les effective against lefties than he is against righties

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one bullet dodged