Author Topic: This guy got cut, the Nats should look at him (2009) (Read 22707 times)

PANatsFan · « **Reply #175:** July 11, 2009, 12:59:54 PM »

Quote from: blue911 on July 11, 2009, 09:48:10 AM

In the end, it boils down to "Do you think Coste is better than Nieves or Bard?".

He was released - Astros sent him to AAA. We really want to trade Bard - it's a no brainer.

ronnynat · « **Reply #176:** July 16, 2009, 06:02:47 PM »

Quote from: JCA-CrystalCity on July 08, 2009, 04:33:12 PM

BJ Ryan released today. $15 m left on his contract. Once he clears waivers, roll the dice?

The Cubs signed him today.

PANatsFan · « **Reply #177:** July 16, 2009, 09:04:21 PM »

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2009/07/orlando-hernandez-expected-to-become-a-free-agent.html

Sign him - why the hell not

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #178:** July 17, 2009, 09:41:55 AM »

Quote from: PANatsFan on July 16, 2009, 09:04:21 PM

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2009/07/orlando-hernandez-expected-to-become-a-free-agent.html

Sign him - why the hell not

Actually, it might be fun to have him and Julian throw in one game, just to look at their motions.

hammondsnats · « **Reply #179:** July 17, 2009, 12:39:04 PM »

Tyler Walker. Phils just DFA'd him. He's better than Tavarez. Per rotoworld:

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Phillies designated RHP Tyler Walker for assignment.

Signed to a minor league contract in early April, Walker had a 1.40 ERA and 20/3 K/BB ratio in 19 2/3 innings at the Triple-A level before earning a promotion to the bigs on June 14. He allowed just two earned runs in 11 innings with the Phillies while compiling a 5/1 K/BB ratio, but the club obviously saw something in the right-hander that they didn't like. He's sure to find a home elsewhere.

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #180:** July 17, 2009, 12:42:29 PM »

Sucks. Say no to retreads

tomterp · « **Reply #181:** July 17, 2009, 12:45:05 PM »

Quote from: sportsfan882 on July 17, 2009, 12:42:29 PM

Sucks. Say no to retreads

You don't think the Phillies retread is better than our retread?

I'd grab him and release Tavarez now.

PANatsFan · « **Reply #182:** July 17, 2009, 12:45:42 PM »

Quote from: sportsfan882 on July 17, 2009, 12:42:29 PM

Sucks. Say no to retreads

Even you could throw more strikes than Tavarez - what do we have to lose. How about cutting Guzman, taking Lugo from the Sox plus a solid reliever for a fringe prospect?

The Chief · « **Reply #183:** July 17, 2009, 12:46:42 PM »

Quote from: tomterp on July 17, 2009, 12:45:05 PM

You don't think the Phillies retread is better than our retread?

I'd grab him and release Tavarez now.

He's over 25

tomterp · « **Reply #184:** July 17, 2009, 12:47:27 PM »

Quote from: The Chief on July 17, 2009, 12:46:42 PM

He's over 25

hammondsnats · « **Reply #185:** July 17, 2009, 12:52:57 PM »

Quote from: sportsfan882 on July 17, 2009, 12:42:29 PM

Sucks. Say no to retreads

SAY YES TO THE BERNADINA'S OF THE WORLD! UNPROVEN FRINGE "PROSPECTS" WHO HAVE UNDERWHELMING NUMBERS IN THE FRIGGIN MINOR LEAGUES!!!

OUTLANDER!!!

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #186:** July 17, 2009, 01:04:38 PM »

Why get rid of 1 over the hill bum for another?

Waste. Walker sucks. Couldn't even keep a job with the Giants.

Haven't we learned our lesson going after retreads like Tavarez, Kensing, Beimel, Villone, etc?

The Chief · « **Reply #187:** July 17, 2009, 01:21:08 PM »

You have any better ideas? Trying something is better than trying nothing. Even if the result is the same, you're no worse off.

JMW IV · « **Reply #188:** July 17, 2009, 02:18:52 PM »

Quote from: The Chief on July 17, 2009, 12:46:42 PM

He's over 25

In Sportsfan's world, if you are over 25, and/or have Major League Experience with a team other than the Nationals, you are a worthless retread.

JMW IV · « **Reply #189:** July 17, 2009, 02:22:30 PM »

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Walker, 33, has only pitched 11 innings for the Phillies this year, but he's done well, allowing ten hits and a walk to go along with five Ks and a 1.64 ERA.

from MLBTR

hammondsnats · « **Reply #190:** July 17, 2009, 02:38:31 PM »

Quote from: JMadIV on July 17, 2009, 02:18:52 PM

In Sportsfan's world, if you are over 25, and/or have Major League Experience with a team other than the Nationals, you are a worthless retread.

yup. just like i said he's cut from the same cloth of those kids from children of the corn. once you reach a certain age you are worthless.

OUTLANDER!

KnorrForYourMoney · « **Reply #191:** July 17, 2009, 08:22:21 PM »

Quote from: sportsfan882 on July 17, 2009, 01:04:38 PM

Why get rid of 1 over the hill bum for another?

Waste. Walker sucks. Couldn't even keep a job with the Giants.

Haven't we learned our lesson going after retreads like Tavarez, Kensing, Beimel, Villone, etc?

WTF? His performance has been good this year. You don't think that makes him more worthwhile than some of those other guys?

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #192:** July 24, 2009, 10:55:20 PM »

Lot's of semi interesting names DFA'd today. Kotsay, Roy Corcoran, Josh Anderson, David Delluci. If we did a trade with the Tigers involving one of the Nick Dunn Willingham triumvirate, Anderson might be a useful back up outfielder as part of a larger package. I also think Corcoran has had some success, and if we moved Guz to Seattle, he also might be worth takign aback as a throw in.

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #193:** July 24, 2009, 11:16:58 PM »

we've had Corcoran before. Minor league trash.

in fact all of the players you listed are.

we need to get younger, not older. we have enough has-beens as it is.

Nathan · « **Reply #194:** July 24, 2009, 11:19:34 PM »

Quote from: sportsfan882 on July 24, 2009, 11:16:58 PM

we've had Corcoran before. Minor league trash.

in fact all of the players you listed are.

we need to get younger, not older. we have enough ~~has-beens~~ never-weres as it is.

Fixed.

hammondsnats · « **Reply #195:** July 25, 2009, 09:57:08 AM »

for god sakes please pick up ryan speier. not just cuz we went to the same college but b/c he's a helluva bullpen arm and from this area.

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #196:** July 25, 2009, 11:52:25 AM »

Anderson isn't quite 27, has a good glove, is an excellent base stealer percentage-wise. His OBP isn't quite good enough to be a regular, and has no power. Looks like a 4th OF, but was squeezed out of Detroit due to the return of Carlos Guillen. If we did move Willie, I would not mind him here. He's only a year older than Justin Maxwell. I'd rather have him up than Maxwell if it means Maxwell does not play regularly.

The nature of most of these cuts that are on this thread is that they're bench depth with a few skills. Just about the best you can hope for is a Willie Harris who develops late. Anderson has some useful skills and could be an adequate 4th OF. Nothing more.

amanuel · « **Reply #197:** July 25, 2009, 01:49:23 PM »

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According to Ed Price of AOL Fanhouse, the Mariners have designated outfielder Wladimir Balentien for assignment. He's bumped to make room for Michael Saunders.

The move is somewhat interesting, as the Mariners had once considered the powerful Balentien the future of their outfield when Adam Jones departed to the Orioles in the Erik Bedard trade. The 25-year-old Balentien has been disappointing, though, posting a .619 OPS in 434 plate appearances the last three seasons.

Last year he was considered the Mariners top 5 prospect and now look at him.

Lintyfresh85 · « **Reply #198:** July 25, 2009, 02:53:19 PM »

I'd definitely go after Balentein.

He's more of an OF prospect than anything we have in the system.

For comparison... career minor league numbers

Roger Bernadina - 24 years old (born June 12, 1984)
.265/.351/.383/.734 with 47 HR's and 310 RBI's - 2600+ at bats

Wladimir Balentien - 24 years old (born July 2, 1984)
.273/.345/.526/.871 with 122 HR's and 417 RBI's - 2100+ at bats

So Balentien in 500 less at bats has put up 75 more home runs and 107 more RBI's. Seems pretty easy to see who should be getting the boot to bring Balentien in.

hammondsnats · « **Reply #199:** July 25, 2009, 03:38:40 PM »

Quote from: Lintyfresh85 on July 25, 2009, 02:53:19 PM

I'd definitely go after Balentein.

He's more of an OF prospect than anything we have in the system.

For comparison... career minor league numbers

Roger Bernadina - 24 years old (born June 12, 1984)
.265/.351/.383/.734 with 47 HR's and 310 RBI's - 2600+ at bats

Wladimir Balentien - 24 years old (born July 2, 1984)
.273/.345/.526/.871 with 122 HR's and 417 RBI's - 2100+ at bats

So Balentien in 500 less at bats has put up 75 more home runs and 107 more RBI's. Seems pretty easy to see who should be getting the boot to bring Balentien in.

amen linty.

Balentein > Bernadina and it's not even close.