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Offline PatsNats28

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Re: Nationals vs Marlins, Game 1
« Reply #75: September 23, 2008, 08:46:20 PM »
Milledge: 59 RBIs in 508 ABs.

Flores: 59 RBIs in 301 ABs.

 :shock:  :worship:

RBIs = useless statistic

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Re: Nationals vs Marlins, Game 1
« Reply #76: September 23, 2008, 08:47:25 PM »
Who here would love to add Matt Holliday and Adrian Gonzalez to our lineup next season?

RBIs = useless statistic

 :rofl:  sounds like a direct quote from a book.

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Re: Nationals vs Marlins, Game 1
« Reply #77: September 23, 2008, 08:47:42 PM »
RBIs = useless statistic
No way. RBIs are a great measure of a player's ability to get hits in crucial situations and to drive in runs.

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Re: Nationals vs Marlins, Game 1
« Reply #78: September 23, 2008, 08:48:19 PM »
Who here would love to add Matt Holliday and Adrian Gonzalez to our lineup next season?
I'm in. Man that would be a fun offense to watch.

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Re: Nationals vs Marlins, Game 1
« Reply #79: September 23, 2008, 08:48:58 PM »
Milledge: 59 RBIs in 508 ABs.

Flores: 59 RBIs in 301 ABs.

 :shock:  :worship:

that's so sad that a pair of 23 year olds who have missed significant time lead a team in rbi's and it's not even 60 yet.  go get another bat lerner family!!!

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Re: Nationals vs Marlins, Game 1
« Reply #80: September 23, 2008, 08:49:43 PM »
No way. RBIs are a great measure of a player's ability to get hits in crucial situations and to drive in runs.

It's supposed to lend a measure of baseball knowledge to say that sort of thing though. Just like it's become trendy for people to say "BA is not a good way to measure a player. OBP is much more important".  :rofl:

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Re: Nationals vs Marlins, Game 1
« Reply #81: September 23, 2008, 08:50:15 PM »
Who here would love to add Matt Holliday and Adrian Gonzalez to our lineup next season?

that would be AMAZING to have. AMAZING!!

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Re: Nationals vs Marlins, Game 1
« Reply #82: September 23, 2008, 08:51:05 PM »
I'm in. Man that would be a fun offense to watch.

What if to acquire those two bats you had to give up Burgess, Marrero, Detwiler, Wilems, whoever it is we get with the number 1 draft pick and one of either Lannan or Balester?

Note that the dent to the MLB roster would be minimal.

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Re: Nationals vs Marlins, Game 1
« Reply #83: September 23, 2008, 08:51:18 PM »
RBIs are iffy, depends if Milledge had as many opportunities with a man on base than Flores did

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Re: Nationals vs Marlins, Game 1
« Reply #84: September 23, 2008, 08:51:32 PM »
It's supposed to lend a measure of baseball knowledge to say that sort of thing though. Just like it's become trendy for people to say "BA is not a good way to measure a player. OBP is much more important".  :rofl:
I know what you mean. Both BA and RBIs are important to me. OBP is nice but like I have said countless times, walks do not produce runs, hits do. Just watch the 3 games we just played against the Padres to see what I'm talking about.

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Re: Nationals vs Marlins, Game 1
« Reply #85: September 23, 2008, 08:52:03 PM »
What if to acquire those two bats you had to give up Burgess, Marrero, Detwiler, Wilems, whoever it is we get with the number 1 draft pick and one of either Lannan or Balester?

Note that the dent to the MLB roster would be minimal.
No way.

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Re: Nationals vs Marlins, Game 1
« Reply #86: September 23, 2008, 08:52:47 PM »
freak. damned walks. Time for the crap pen to come in and put us back in the SS stakes.


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Re: Nationals vs Marlins, Game 1
« Reply #87: September 23, 2008, 08:53:10 PM »
Who here would love to add Matt Holliday and Adrian Gonzalez to our lineup next season?

 :rofl:  sounds like a direct quote from a book.

lol what do you mean? Seriously... a single with a guy on second vs. a single with no one on doesn't necessarily mean that the individual player is better.

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Re: Nationals vs Marlins, Game 1
« Reply #88: September 23, 2008, 08:53:12 PM »
I know what you mean. Both BA and RBIs are important to me. OBP is nice but like I have said countless times, walks do not produce runs, hits do. Just watch the 3 games we just played against the Padres to see what I'm talking about.

Not only that, it's not like walks were not recognized as important in previous eras.

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Re: Nationals vs Marlins, Game 1
« Reply #89: September 23, 2008, 08:54:16 PM »
pretty good start for martis, though.  he's had better and he's had worse.

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Re: Nationals vs Marlins, Game 1
« Reply #90: September 23, 2008, 08:55:57 PM »
lol what do you mean? Seriously... a single with a guy on second vs. a single with no one on doesn't necessarily mean that the individual player is better.

Some guys clearly have a difficult time driving runs in (see Jose Vidro). Whatever dude, I was just commenting on the tired pretentious phrase that is so often used to "flex" a degree of baseball acumen.

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Re: Nationals vs Marlins, Game 1
« Reply #91: September 23, 2008, 08:55:58 PM »
RBIs are iffy, depends if Milledge had as many opportunities with a man on base than Flores did

RISP stats

Milledge 31/129 (.240), 7 Doubles, 0 Triples, 1 HR, 42 RBIs, 14 BBs, 27 Ks

Flores 34/92 (.370) 7 Doubles, 0 Triples, 5 HRs, 55 RBIs, 7 BBs, 27 Ks


That's almost a laughable comparison. Flores is one of the best hitters in baseball with RISP.

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Re: Nationals vs Marlins, Game 1
« Reply #92: September 23, 2008, 08:57:18 PM »
Good old Shell. freaking bum.  :?

Horrible pitch. Uggla was barely touching his breaking ball so he decides to throw the only thing Uggla can hit (fastball) right down the middle.  :roll:

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Re: Nationals vs Marlins, Game 1
« Reply #93: September 23, 2008, 08:57:18 PM »
No way.

I knew some of you would react that way. I would do it in a heartbeat. It would only mean getting rid of one player that is currently contributing to the team. Besides, there is no guarantee that those prospects will work out when all is said and done.

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Re: Nationals vs Marlins, Game 1
« Reply #94: September 23, 2008, 08:57:28 PM »
As milledge's biggest supporter on here, yeah he definitely needs to get better in driving runs in with RISP.  That's for sure.

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Re: Nationals vs Marlins, Game 1
« Reply #95: September 23, 2008, 08:58:28 PM »
I knew some of you would react that way. I would do it in a heartbeat. It would only mean getting rid of one player that is currently contributing to the team. Besides, there is no guarantee that those prospects will work out when all is said and done.
Those are our best prospects. We'd be decimated without most of those guys.

It would also depend on how long we had A-Gon and Holliday for too though.

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Re: Nationals vs Marlins, Game 1
« Reply #96: September 23, 2008, 08:58:41 PM »
Wait, to what spider said earlier, would it be possible to get Adrian and Holliday this offseason? lol

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Re: Nationals vs Marlins, Game 1
« Reply #97: September 23, 2008, 08:59:33 PM »
Nice turn, Zim.

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Re: Nationals vs Marlins, Game 1
« Reply #98: September 23, 2008, 08:59:42 PM »
good pitch shell and nice turn zim.

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Re: Nationals vs Marlins, Game 1
« Reply #99: September 23, 2008, 09:07:34 PM »
Wait, to what spider said earlier, would it be possible to get Adrian and Holliday this offseason? lol

One or the other, but probably not both.