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The Clubhouse / Re: 2014-2015 Nationals Offseason
« Last post by whytev on Yesterday at 02:18:55 PM »
might as well at this point, the funny thing is, the people who use not signing JZ and Desmond as a sign that the team prefers Strasburg- shouldn't we be hearing something about extension talks?

Yes.  Extend Rendon and Strasburg right away.  I'd suggest extending Harper, but I feel like Boras would never let that happen.

If Rendon gets a giant, Zimmerman-like extention, I'm going to be very, very pleased with the organisation.

Stras will always annoy me if Zimmermann keeps out-performing him after he goes elsewhere.
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The Clubhouse / Re: 2014-2015 Nationals Offseason
« Last post by whytev on Yesterday at 02:17:26 PM »
pretty sure Zimmermann isn't on the open market. Developing internally works so long as you manage to hold onto that talent or if all of your prospects pan out- right now the nats are having a great run at that, but eventually some will bust and pencilling in guys in high A to replace elite pitchers won't always work out

No, and White Whale above makes it clear what you should do when you're caught short...the Fister or the Gio deal, not a big signing.

Zimmermann is putting himself on the open market...no question about it.  Once that happens, there is literally no difference between him and any other FA pitcher except for fan sentimentality/popularity.
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The Clubhouse / Re: 2014-2015 Nationals Offseason
« Last post by WhiteWhale on Yesterday at 02:14:54 PM »
I agree that it isn't evidence of a Strasburg preference. All it truly shows, is that when JZ was approached, he was clear what his stance was. When it's Stras' turn to be approached, maybe we will know about it, maybe we won't, maybe he already has, and maybe within all of those options there will be productive talks or there will be the same response JZ had. JZ has had a pretty Boras-like response to all of this.
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The Clubhouse / Re: 2014-2015 Nationals Offseason
« Last post by HalfSmokes on Yesterday at 02:09:30 PM »
but he has said he would consider an offer from the Nats that was "faire value" and while not a "me" guy, he is about as obvious of a guy who intends to test the market as he can be.

might as well at this point, the funny thing is, the people who use not signing JZ and Desmond as a sign that the team prefers Strasburg- shouldn't we be hearing something about extension talks?
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The Clubhouse / Re: 2014-2015 Nationals Offseason
« Last post by WhiteWhale on Yesterday at 02:08:02 PM »
pretty sure Zimmermann isn't on the open market

but he has said he would consider an offer from the Nats that was "faire value" and while not a "me" guy, he is about as obvious of a guy who intends to test the market as he can be.
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The Out of Town Scoreboard / Re: 2014-2015 MLB Offseason Discussion
« Last post by Slateman on Yesterday at 02:07:05 PM »
Yea for real. Five million is nothing.
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Even more of a reason to despise them.
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The Clubhouse / Re: 2014-2015 Nationals Offseason
« Last post by HalfSmokes on Yesterday at 02:05:53 PM »
No.  It's that they can't afford to get into an all out bidding war.

The players developed internally are bargains, and free agents are not.  As soon as a guy puts himself on the open market and the playing field levels, he might as well be anyone else as far as trying to get value goes.

pretty sure Zimmermann isn't on the open market. Developing internally works so long as you manage to hold onto that talent or if all of your prospects pan out- right now the nats are having a great run at that, but eventually some will bust and pencilling in guys in high A to replace elite pitchers won't always work out
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Braves To Sign A.J. Pierzynski

By Jeff Todd [December 24, 2014 at 12:50pm CST]   
 

The Braves have reached a one-year deal with free agent catcher A.J. Pierzynski, MLB.com’s Mark Bowman reports on Twitter.

Well, that's just about a perfect match
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The Clubhouse / Re: 2014-2015 Nationals Offseason
« Last post by whytev on Yesterday at 01:57:40 PM »
When you look at money and desire for frontline pitching that matches with that money, its Tigers v Yanks. I really don't see anyone else getting involved. Boras only needs one, but he'll have two to play...the 160 is probably the floor, it will be higher. If JZ and his reps try to use the contract Sherzer ends up with then I'd be fine with the draft pick.

Pitching, in my opinion is best obtained pre-service clock, and if you can get reasonable extensions during ARB years to buy out a few FA years, great. Past that, next man up, and if that guy isn't ready try to find the short term guy the market didn't value correctly (which would include ARB guy trades - ala Fister). All of that is easier said than done of course.

Yup.  You can do okay on the FA market for a big bat 1B or maybe a single hole you might have at another position.  But going after the big pitcher seems to net poor value and disappointment.
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