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The Clubhouse / Re: 2017-2018 Off-season Discussion Thread
« Last post by varoadking on Yesterday at 07:35:45 PM »
Lobaton is now a Met, on a minor league deal with a spring training invite.

Seems like an appropriate deal for him...
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The Clubhouse / Re: 2017-2018 Off-season Discussion Thread
« Last post by Natsinpwc on Yesterday at 05:45:34 PM »
I can try to look at specific guys when I have time this weekend, but if I think about it, September was probably the healthiest the team had been all year outside of Harper.
The last two weeks Dusty was resting several regulars each game.
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The Clubhouse / Re: Home Team discount?
« Last post by Baseball is Life on Yesterday at 05:39:20 PM »
Only since 2003 ?  How the hell did you become the moderator ?


I was talking to this guy the other day and he was lecturing me on how things have changed in DC since he's been here. And then I found out he's been here since 2005. :hysterical:

He doesn't know what he doesn't know.
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The Clubhouse / Re: 2017-2018 Off-season Discussion Thread
« Last post by dcpatti on Yesterday at 05:29:04 PM »
Lobaton is now a Met, on a minor league deal with a spring training invite.
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The Clubhouse / Re: 2017-2018 Off-season Discussion Thread
« Last post by Ray D on Yesterday at 05:27:43 PM »
I don't think you know how sports work.

Uncalled for.
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The Clubhouse / Re: 2017-2018 Off-season Discussion Thread
« Last post by bluestreak on Yesterday at 04:53:06 PM »
Isn't that misleading because they had other injuries and also were resting players the last few weeks. Obviously he makes a difference in the long haul.

I can try to look at specific guys when I have time this weekend, but if I think about it, September was probably the healthiest the team had been all year outside of Harper.
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The Clubhouse / Re: 2017-2018 Off-season Discussion Thread
« Last post by Natsinpwc on Yesterday at 04:50:00 PM »
Instead of using winning percentage, which is affected by the fact that the Nats had run away with the division, had to play against September Call ups and had also is affected by pitching, we should look at how the Nationals did offensively:

Pre August 12: .275/.390/.472  wRC+ 108 5.34 Runs per game
Post August 12: .243/.313/.394 wRC+ 82  4.32 Runs per game

By all offensive metrics the Nats offense was significantly worse after Harper got injured. And he didn't have enough at bats to get back into the swing. There is no way that this team is better with Bryce Harper. That assessment has no basis in reality.
Isn't that misleading because they had other injuries and also were resting players the last few weeks. Obviously he makes a difference in the long haul.
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The Clubhouse / Re: 2017-2018 Off-season Discussion Thread
« Last post by bluestreak on Yesterday at 04:42:51 PM »
The Nats went 26-15 when he was out in August and September, a .634 winning percentage.

The rest of the season they had a .587 winning percentage.

Instead of using winning percentage, which is affected by the fact that the Nats had run away with the division, had to play against September Call ups and had also is affected by pitching, we should look at how the Nationals did offensively:

Pre August 12: .275/.390/.472  wRC+ 108 5.34 Runs per game
Post August 12: .243/.313/.394 wRC+ 82  4.32 Runs per game

By all offensive metrics the Nats offense was significantly worse after Harper got injured. And he didn't have enough at bats to get back into the swing. There is no way that this team is better with Bryce Harper. That assessment has no basis in reality.
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The Clubhouse / Re: 2017-2018 Off-season Discussion Thread
« Last post by aspenbubba on Yesterday at 03:36:05 PM »
how much longer can you count on a terrible division? Likely another year, but eventually prospects mature and both the Phillies and Braves have strong farms
May I remind you that we were 10-9 against the Braves
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The Out of Town Scoreboard / Re: MLB & Division Watching (2017)
« Last post by Natsinpwc on Yesterday at 03:33:55 PM »
actually, I like all Carlos Santanas.  I think of him as a converted catcher so I just assumed he's not so hot at 1st, but he's been positive on UZR most of the time there (< 5 runs, or < 1/2 win).  I had him on fantasy teams when his average plummeted, but he's still a decent hitter.  $20MM / yr for 3 years seems like a lot given how many successful 1Bs have signed much cheaper and had similar success, but Philly has money to burn.  Maybe he's their Jayson Werth without the down years.  I'm holding out for JD Martinez to the Sox ;)
Ok. My understanding is that he is a butcher at 3b but as you said positive defensively at 1B. On base machine. I would see his HRs going up in CBP. 4th year team option. As you said they have money to burn. Klentak said this was not the year for them to spend. He obviously was trying to set expectations low. I now see them trying to add a veteran pitcher to make a run at a wild card so they can attract Machado. Or Harper.
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