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The Clubhouse / Re: Eaton for Giolito Lopez and Dunning
« Last post by imref on Today at 09:21:04 AM »
Sorry, but by any logical examination of the statistics, the Nationals downgraded by keeping Eaton and signing Corbin.

You lost me, are you saying that we would have been better off signing Harper this past offseason, trading Eaton, and not signing Corbin?   To say that would require figuring out who would have replied Corbin in the rotation (Roark, or some other FA?)

WAR in 2019:
Eaton: 1.6
Corbin: 4.8

Harper: 2.6

So you have to have found a pretty decent pitcher to slot in at the #3 spot to equal the WAR we're getting from Eaton and Corbin.   Roark has been worth 2.2, so Roark/Harper's 4.8 < Eaton/Corbin's 6.4

And, Corbin is only under contract for 6 years.  Had we kept Harper with 12/$330 million deal, then Eaton/Corbin looks even better.

Now if you want to say we would have been better off keeping Giolito in 2016 so we'd end up today with Harper/Giolito instead of Corbin/Eaton, yes, certainly for this season that would have been a better lineup.  But over the last 3 years, if Eaton hadn't gotten hurt, he'd likely have exceeded Giolito's 5.5 WAR in that period (he's at 3.1).
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The Farm / Re: Follow the Prospects: Tim Cate, LHP
« Last post by Glockypoo on Today at 09:17:28 AM »
Cate was excellent last night for Potomac: 7 IP, 3 H, 1 ER, 9 K, 0 BB.

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I don't understand why we can't just get rid of Grace for a few days.

Honestly, I don't understand why everyone isn't desperately rooting for him to return to form for the last month of the season. Howie is an awful first baseman and Adams is a one trick pony. He had a nice stretch at the end of June and in July, but the guy is simply too easy to get out. Yes, he'll hit a homer, but he'll also strikeout 30+% of the time and struggle to maintain an OBP over .310.

When Zimmerman is healthy and has his timing, he's a damn good hitter. We saw that in 2017 when he stayed healthy the whole season. We saw that last year when he came back from the DL in July and hit .295/.374/.538 for the rest of the season.

Whether you want to admit it or not, this team needs another bat behind Soto. It ain't going to be Adams. Howie could do it, but you're sacrificing a lot on the defensive side as well as the bench (althought Cabrerra makes that less of an issue). It's why I wanted to grab Nick Castellanos from the Tigers at the deadline. This lineup a really steep drop off from our number 4 hitter (Soto) to whoever hits number 5 (Dozier/Suzuki/Adams). And a healthy, mashing Zimmerman goes a long way to mitigate that. That's the kind of lineup a quality team in the playoffs has. That's the kind of lineup that the Braves have. That's the kind of lineup you have to bring in to the playoffs.


Grace is gone as soon as Elias is ready.

Regarding Zimm, we are on a 50-26 run.  Our lineup and defense is hardly our problem.  At this point, inserting Zimm would almost feel like removing Jordan Zimmermann from game 2 against SF in 2014 (or perhaps removing Strasburg throwing a shutout at 94 pitches. for Suero).  This current lineup FEELS right.  I know that doesn't always match up with your fancy stats but that is what my eyes tell me.  I have no problem bringing him back on Sept 1.

You are worried about Soto needing better protection.  Can you imagine bringing back Zimm back for this weekend's series in Chicago?  Flashback!  Joe Maddon would give Juan Soto the Bryce Harper treatment and walk him 16 times to get to Zimm.  That would be bad.   It might break Zimm.  Again.
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The Clubhouse / Re: Wild Card watch
« Last post by Natsinpwc on Today at 09:06:03 AM »
Team is in a race and everyone still nagin. If they win the wild card playing the Dodgers won’t be easy. However it will be a five game series which gives the underdog more of a chance. Then it would be Atlanta or one of them central team.
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The Out of Town Scoreboard / Re: Little League World Series
« Last post by Natsinpwc on Today at 09:04:13 AM »
Loudoun South lost 12-9 so they move to the "one loss" bracket.    If they win, they're in.    If they lose, they'll be back in school tomorrow.

7 p.m. U.S. semifinal: River Ridge (La.) vs. South Riding (Va.) » ESPN
School in August in VA?  They will be working the fields.
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That's fine, but who gets sent down to make room for him?  Assuming we keep the same amount of pitchers, you have to cut one of the following.  Adams?  Kendrick?  Dozier?  Cabrera?  Parra?   Step up and name one.
I don't understand why we can't just get rid of Grace for a few days.

Honestly, I don't understand why everyone isn't desperately rooting for him to return to form for the last month of the season. Howie is an awful first baseman and Adams is a one trick pony. He had a nice stretch at the end of June and in July, but the guy is simply too easy to get out. Yes, he'll hit a homer, but he'll also strikeout 30+% of the time and struggle to maintain an OBP over .310.

When Zimmerman is healthy and has his timing, he's a damn good hitter. We saw that in 2017 when he stayed healthy the whole season. We saw that last year when he came back from the DL in July and hit .295/.374/.538 for the rest of the season.

Whether you want to admit it or not, this team needs another bat behind Soto. It ain't going to be Adams. Howie could do it, but you're sacrificing a lot on the defensive side as well as the bench (althought Cabrerra makes that less of an issue). It's why I wanted to grab Nick Castellanos from the Tigers at the deadline. This lineup a really steep drop off from our number 4 hitter (Soto) to whoever hits number 5 (Dozier/Suzuki/Adams). And a healthy, mashing Zimmerman goes a long way to mitigate that. That's the kind of lineup a quality team in the playoffs has. That's the kind of lineup that the Braves have. That's the kind of lineup you have to bring in to the playoffs.
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It seems like some of you are rooting against Zimmerman? Oh no, he might take a roster spot from a younger player, or maybe he will get hurt? I wouldn't want to be in a fox hole with you guys...  How about we bring him up when he's healthy and see what happens?  Maybe he rips a few clutch doubles down the stretch, and rides off into the sunset after the season? The pessimism here on this board is well noted
That's fine, but who gets sent down to make room for him?  Assuming we keep the same amount of pitchers, you have to cut one of the following.  Adams?  Kendrick?  Dozier?  Cabrera?  Parra?   Step up and name one.
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The Clubhouse / Re: Wild Card watch
« Last post by rileyn on Today at 08:16:45 AM »
I suppose it's still better than being 19-31, in 4th place and planning a fire sale.
True enough, but since falling to 19-31, we have gone 50-26 and yet only gained 2.5 games on the Braves.  It's wildcard or bust for us.
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The Clubhouse / Re: Wild Card watch
« Last post by Slateman on Today at 08:16:04 AM »
I suppose it's still better than being 19-31, in 4th place and planning a fire sale.
Disagree. This team is a pretender and that winning streak deluded everyone into thinking that it wasn't. With Martinez at the helm, it's going no where. We'll watch Rendon leave and Max waste his best years here, accomplishing nothing.
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The Clubhouse / Re: Wild Card watch
« Last post by NatsAllThe Way on Today at 08:11:50 AM »
The push is ON from these teams.  For the second night in a row, the only team to lose was the loser of the St. Louis/Milwaukee game.  The Mets have some magic going at home, and the Phillies take 2 from Boston.  Damn.   The Cubs are also a different at home vs away.

I suppose it's still better than being 19-31, in 4th place and planning a fire sale.
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