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Offline welch

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Another metric for hitters (and a simple one)
« Topic Start: July 10, 2013, 11:28:38 PM »
I just stumbled across a hitting measurement used by a guy from the Washington chapter of SABR. Foundation: the goal of baseball is to win by scoring more runs. Therefore:

- add runs plus RBI's
- divide by at-bats. This accounts for great lead-off walkers, like Eddie Yost. Did he score from the walk?

It's handy for a single season, but the SABR guy used it to compare careers. I did a few just to see how the numbers would look:

- Bucky Harris, 1924: .268

- Roy Sievers, 1957: .37

- Killebrew, 1959: .37

- Bob Allison, 1959: .29

- Frank Howard, 1969: .40

- Ryan  Zim, '09: .35

- Derek Jeter, career: .295

- Ernie Banks  career: .31

- Cano, 2012: .317

- Pete Runnels, 1953: .23

- Sam Rice career: .279

- Joe Judge, career: .28

- Goose Goslin, career: .50. Yes, HoF and Washington favorite.

- Ruth career: .52 (!!!)

- Ted Williams career: .47

- Ty Cobb Career: .365

- Ryan Z Career: .30

- Ian Desmond career: .24

- Espi career majors: .23

- Mickey Vernoin Career: .287

- Cecil TRavis, career: .269

- Eddie Yost career: .258

- Dick "Ducky" Schofield (grandfather of, career): .196

- Werth career: .307

- 2012 Nats: .267

- 2013 Nats: .208

- 1960 Nats: .257

After that I git tired, but it looks like under .200 is bad; .250 - .300 is pretty good. Stars are around .350. The greatest all-time hitters show up at .50 or higher.

I don;t know what it means
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Offline TigerFan

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Re: Another metric for hitters (and a simple one)
« Reply #1: July 11, 2013, 12:28:16 AM »
The big hitters will be impacted most because they will hit more homers which will include both a run and an RBi.  A lead off hitter has far fewer chances for RBis than someone in the meat of the order. 
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Offline mimontero88

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Re: Another metric for hitters (and a simple one)
« Reply #2: July 11, 2013, 01:55:32 AM »
Quote from: welch on July 10, 2013, 11:28:38 PM
- add runs plus RBI's
- divide by at-bats. This accounts for great lead-off walkers, like Eddie Yost. Did he score from the walk?
RBI's and runs are far from context neutral.  Where a batter hits in a lineup has a great impact on their likelihood of scoring runs and likelihood of driving runs in so I don't think it's a good metric at all for measuring true run value of a player's offensive skillset.
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