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Offline comish4lif

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Marlins Spending Spree
« Topic Start: February 16, 2012, 03:23:08 PM »
I just decided to look at some of the details of the Marlins $191M spending spree this past winter - for Reyes, Bell and Buehrle.

Out of the $191M committed, $7M is in bonuses that are being deferred without interest, and the 2012 salaries represent only $22M of that.

Reyes - 6 yrs, $106M, $10M in 2012
Buehrle - 4 yrs, $58M, $4M deferred bonus, $6M in 2012
Bell- 3 yrs, $27M, $3M deferred bonus, $6M in 2012
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Offline zimm_da_kid

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Re: Marlins Spending Spree
« Reply #1: February 16, 2012, 03:53:12 PM »
they are going to sell them all off in 2-3 years.  There is a reason they don't give no-trades
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Re: Marlins Spending Spree
« Reply #2: February 16, 2012, 04:16:49 PM »
Quote from: zimm_da_kid on February 16, 2012, 03:53:12 PM
they are going to sell them all off in 2-3 years.  There is a reason they don't give no-trades

And if they get a third ring no one will care.
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Offline Lintyfresh85

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Re: Marlins Spending Spree
« Reply #3: February 16, 2012, 04:17:34 PM »
Quote from: MarquisDeSade on February 16, 2012, 04:16:49 PM
And if they get a third ring no one will care.

Pretty much.
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Re: Marlins Spending Spree
« Reply #4: February 16, 2012, 04:19:19 PM »
Quote from: zimm_da_kid on February 16, 2012, 03:53:12 PM
they are going to sell them all off in 2-3 years.  There is a reason they don't give no-trades

good luck finding takers- they were the high bidders this year and in 2-3 years, the players will all be older and have higher AAVs
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Offline Lintyfresh85

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Re: Marlins Spending Spree
« Reply #5: February 16, 2012, 04:20:35 PM »
Quote from: HalfSmokes on February 16, 2012, 04:19:19 PM
good luck finding takers- they were the high bidders this year and in 2-3 years, the players will all be older and have higher AAVs

The only one of the three I see them having a problem trading will be Bell, who had already begun his decline when he was signed by the Fish.
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Offline HalfSmokes

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Re: Marlins Spending Spree
« Reply #6: February 16, 2012, 04:24:11 PM »
Quote from: Lintyfresh85 on February 16, 2012, 04:20:35 PM
The only one of the three I see them having a problem trading will be Bell, who had already begun his decline when he was signed by the Fish.

no one else else was willing to match the marlins at 6/106 on a 28 year old reyes reyes, in two years, is he really more valuable at 4/86 with a 22 million option that may have to be picked up for him to waive his no trade clause?
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Offline Lintyfresh85

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Re: Marlins Spending Spree
« Reply #7: February 16, 2012, 04:28:31 PM »
Quote from: HalfSmokes on February 16, 2012, 04:24:11 PM
no one else else was willing to match the marlins at 6/106 on a 28 year old reyes reyes, in two years, is he really more valuable at 4/86 with a 22 million option that may have to be picked up for him to waive his no trade clause?

No one was willing to match... or no one was given a chance?

The Marlins met with him at 12:01 a.m. and bombarded him with an offer the opening night of FA.

I'm sure you could find some way to move him... either by eating a portion of the contract or sending along a prospect or two like they always seem to develop.
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Re: Marlins Spending Spree
« Reply #8: February 16, 2012, 04:30:38 PM »
If no one was given a shot and he really wanted to be in Miami, why would he waive his no trade clause?
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Offline Lintyfresh85

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Re: Marlins Spending Spree
« Reply #9: February 16, 2012, 04:33:12 PM »
Quote from: HalfSmokes on February 16, 2012, 04:30:38 PM
If no one was given a shot and he really wanted to be in Miami, why would he waive his no trade clause?

I don't know. Maybe if he sees the team falling apart, he'd like to move to a winner?

:shrug:

Reyes may be the type of player the Marlins want to hold on to, regardless of contract, because, like Pujols, they believe he can bring in the latino market.
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Re: Marlins Spending Spree
« Reply #10: February 16, 2012, 04:55:05 PM »
Quote from: Lintyfresh85 on February 16, 2012, 04:20:35 PM
The only one of the three I see them having a problem trading will be Bell, who had already begun his decline when he was signed by the Fish.

What about in January 2014, when Mark Buehrle is owed $19 million for '14 (age 35) and $20 million for '15 (age 36)?
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Re: Marlins Spending Spree
« Reply #11: February 16, 2012, 05:42:15 PM »
Quote from: houston-nat on February 16, 2012, 04:55:05 PM
What about in January 2014, when Mark Buehrle is owed $19 million for '14 (age 35) and $20 million for '15 (age 36)?

It could be worse, they could have Jayson Werth at age 38 at $21m to look forward to. :stir:
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Re: Marlins Spending Spree
« Reply #12: February 16, 2012, 05:43:31 PM »
Quote from: MarquisDeSade on February 16, 2012, 05:42:15 PM
It could be worse, they could have Jayson Werth at age 38 at $21m to look forward to. :stir:

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Re: Marlins Spending Spree
« Reply #13: February 16, 2012, 11:32:01 PM »
Quote from: MarquisDeSade on February 16, 2012, 04:16:49 PM
And if they get a third ring no one will care.

And what talent will they need to add to make that conceivable?  Other than Reyes, they treaded water.
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Re: Marlins Spending Spree
« Reply #14: February 17, 2012, 01:12:24 AM »
Can't wait for the Mastercard commercial to come out.
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Offline PANatsFan

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Re: Marlins Spending Spree
« Reply #15: February 17, 2012, 02:22:09 AM »
The only one that is really good is reyes. Of course we could use him . . .
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Re: Marlins Spending Spree
« Reply #16: February 17, 2012, 02:22:54 AM »
Quote from: MarquisDeSade on February 16, 2012, 05:42:15 PM
It could be worse, they could have Jayson Werth at age 38 at $21m to look forward to. :stir:

Maybe he craps gold bars or something
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Re: Marlins Spending Spree
« Reply #17: February 17, 2012, 06:58:02 AM »
Quote from: JCA-CrystalCity on February 16, 2012, 11:32:01 PM
And what talent will they need to add to make that conceivable?  Other than Reyes, they treaded water.

Well, considering two of their main guys are coming back from injuries... :stir: :poke: :popcorn: :hang:
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Re: Marlins Spending Spree
« Reply #18: February 17, 2012, 10:53:23 AM »
If pitchers generally do not make it back effectively from shoulder surgery, then the Nats would be get less out of their Wang, and the Fish would get less out of their Johnson.  Who is hurt more?
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Re: Marlins Spending Spree
« Reply #19: February 17, 2012, 10:54:30 AM »
Quote from: JCA-CrystalCity on February 17, 2012, 10:53:23 AM
If pitchers generally do not make it back effectively from shoulder surgery, then the Nats would be get less out of their Wang, and the Fish would get less out of their Johnson.  Who is hurt more?

One has Big Mike Stanton.  Case closed.
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Re: Marlins Spending Spree
« Reply #20: February 17, 2012, 10:59:48 AM »
Quote from: MarquisDeSade on February 17, 2012, 10:54:30 AM
One has Big Mike Stanton.  Case closed.

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Re: Marlins Spending Spree
« Reply #21: February 17, 2012, 04:15:27 PM »
Quote from: MarquisDeSade on February 17, 2012, 06:58:02 AM
Well, considering two of their main guys are coming back from injuries... :stir: :poke: :popcorn: :hang:

It doesn't matter. The Red Sox are going to win the next 7 world series anyway.
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Offline comish4lif

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Re: Marlins Spending Spree
« Reply #22: February 19, 2012, 08:29:48 PM »
Quote from: HalfSmokes on February 16, 2012, 04:30:38 PM
If no one was given a shot and he really wanted to be in Miami, why would he waive his no trade clause?

Marlins don't give no trade clauses as a general rule, pretty sure Reyes didn't get one. Bell and Buehrle neither.
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Re: Marlins Spending Spree
« Reply #23: February 19, 2012, 09:48:25 PM »
Over/under; three Gatorade cooler fatalities inflicted by Zambrano this year?
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Re: Marlins Spending Spree
« Reply #24: February 20, 2012, 11:37:33 AM »
Quote from: PANatsFan on February 17, 2012, 02:22:09 AM
The only one that is really good is reyes. Of course we could use him . . .

:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
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