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Offline wpa2629

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Re: LAC still lives on
« Reply #25: October 10, 2012, 05:22:49 PM »
LOL at posting that garbage and calling anyone else clueless

Good job, good effort

I know you're hammered, and totally bummed out - go sleep it off

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Re: LAC still lives on
« Reply #26: October 10, 2012, 05:23:48 PM »
Anyone who wants to say the season is over is welcome to stop posting the rest of the playoffs.  just a suggestion.

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Re: LAC still lives on
« Reply #27: October 10, 2012, 05:26:06 PM »
i wonder what the most runs a team has been outscored and still won a series?  I think the Mazeroski Pirates were absolutely destroyed in run differential, making the NYY the Pythag Champs that series.  :lol:

edit - checked - the NYY were plus 28.

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Re: LAC still lives on
« Reply #28: October 10, 2012, 05:26:43 PM »
LOL at posting that garbage and calling anyone else clueless

Good job, good effort

I know you're hammered, and totally bummed out - go sleep it off

not hammered at all.  tired of seeing my team get hammered in the postseason.

oh but teddy won today!  we got free towels today!

outscored 20-4?!?!  in two games?!?!  down 2-1?!?! 

sorry we're not as perfect as LANC/SSS thought we were.


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Re: LAC still lives on
« Reply #29: October 10, 2012, 05:27:11 PM »
i wonder what the most runs a team has been outscored and still won a series?  I think the Mazeroski Pirates were absolutley destroyed in run differential, making the NYY the Pythag Champs that series.  :lol:

I read somewhere that a team got routed in their first two games, then won the next three - can't remember who it was - but they were ugly games - like our last 2

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Re: LAC still lives on
« Reply #30: October 10, 2012, 05:28:34 PM »
i just hope they realize just b/c we had best record that we still have plenty of areas of weakness. 

new OF bat.  new 2B.  new SP.  upgrade the bullpen too.

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Re: LAC still lives on
« Reply #31: October 10, 2012, 05:30:02 PM »
not hammered at all.  tired of seeing my team get hammered in the postseason.

oh but teddy won today!  we got free towels today!

outscored 20-4?!?!  in two games?!?!  down 2-1?!?! 

sorry we're not as perfect as LANC/SSS thought we were.



Nobody ever said they were perfect

And there's nothing wrong with towels or Teddy.

The Nats just didn't play well. People spent a lot of time, energy and money watching the team they root for lay a big fat egg. It totally sucks

But the last 2 games had nothing to do with LAC/LANC/SSS or any of that crap. They just didn't play well. It happens.

Try not to lose perspective.

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Re: LAC still lives on
« Reply #32: October 10, 2012, 05:32:12 PM »
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i just hope they realize just b/c we had best record that we still have plenty of areas of weakness. 

new OF bat.  new 2B.  new SP.  upgrade the bullpen too.
It took you long enough, but this is a point worth discussing. 

I think Espinosa has trade value to a team looking for a shortstop.  You could run Lombo out there until Rendon or Kobernus is ready, or you could make a deal. If you want to upgrade at 2d, who do you have in mind and how would you get him?

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Re: LAC still lives on (2013 roster targets)
« Reply #33: October 10, 2012, 05:37:24 PM »
FA List to give folks something to stew over

No to Hamilton
And someone is going to pay Greinke 100 million dollars, I hope it's not the Nats

Left fielders
Travis Buck (29)
Melky Cabrera (28)
Jonny Gomes (32)
Scott Hairston (33)
Josh Hamilton (32)
Eric Hinske (35)
Reed Johnson (36)
Andruw Jones (36)
Austin Kearns (33)
Carlos Lee (37)
Ryan Ludwick (34) - $5MM mutual option for 2013 with a $500K buyout
Darnell McDonald (34)
Juan Pierre (35)
Juan Rivera (34) - $4MM club option for 2013 with a $500K buyout
Drew Sutton (30)
Delmon Young (27)

Center fielders
Alfredo Amezaga (35)
Rick Ankiel (33)
Michael Bourn (30)
Curtis Granderson (32) - $15MM club option with a $2MM buyout
Scott Hairston (33)
Mitch Maier (31)
Angel Pagan (31)
Cody Ross (32)
Grady Sizemore (30)
B.J. Upton (28)
Shane Victorino (32)

Starting pitchers
Scott Baker (31) - $9.25MM club option
Erik Bedard (34)
Joe Blanton (32)
Bartolo Colon (40)
Aaron Cook (34)
Kevin Correia (32)
Jorge De La Rosa (32) - $11MM player option with a $1MM buyout
Ryan Dempster (36)
R.A. Dickey (38) - $5MM club option with a $300K buyout
Scott Feldman (29) - $9.25MM club option with a $600K buyout
Jeff Francis (32)
Gavin Floyd (30) - $9.5MM club option
Freddy Garcia (37)
Zack Greinke (28)
Jeremy Guthrie (34)
Rich Harden (31)
Dan Haren (32) - $15.5MM club option with a $3.5MM buyout
Roberto Hernandez (32) - $9MM club option
Tim Hudson (37) - $9MM club option with a $1MM buyout
Edwin Jackson (29)
Hiroki Kuroda (38)
Francisco Liriano (29)
Kyle Lohse (34)
Derek Lowe (40)
Paul Maholm (31) - $6.5MM club option with a $500K buyout
Shaun Marcum (31)
Jason Marquis (34)
Daisuke Matsuzaka (32)
Brandon McCarthy (29)
Kevin Millwood (38)
Jamie Moyer (50)
Roy Oswalt (35)
Carl Pavano (37)
Jake Peavy (31) - $22MM club option with a $4MM buyout
Anibal Sanchez (29)
Jonathan Sanchez (30)
Ervin Santana (30) - $13MM club option with a $1MM buyout
Joe Saunders (32)
James Shields (31) - $9MM club option with a $1.5MM buyout
Carlos Villanueva (29)
Chien-Ming Wang (33)
Kip Wells (36)
Randy Wolf (36)
Chris Young (34)
Carlos Zambrano (32)


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Re: LAC still lives on (2013 roster targets)
« Reply #34: October 10, 2012, 05:37:54 PM »
Morse/Espinosa/Jackson are not nats.



Morse is one of three players who brought their "A" game.

Jackson should not be signed. Let him walk.
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Weren't a lot of fans screaming for Desmonds head last year? They will give Espinosa another season or partial.

Hammonds , I would hate to see how you react in a crisis.

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Re: LAC still lives on (2013 roster targets)
« Reply #35: October 10, 2012, 05:40:16 PM »
Morse is one of three players who brought their "A" game.

Jackson should not be signed. Let him walk.
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Weren't a lot of fans screaming for Desmonds head last year? They will give Espinosa another season or partial.

Hammonds , I would hate to see how you react in a crisis.

He's just venting


Hammond's is a good egg - and a die hard Nats fan

Today sucked. I just had a long conversation with my teenager who is taking today very hard. He's really, really disappointed.

I totally get it

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Re: LAC still lives on (2013 roster targets)
« Reply #36: October 10, 2012, 05:40:25 PM »
Morse is one of three players who brought their "A" game.

Jackson should not be signed. Let him walk.
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Weren't a lot of fans screaming for Desmonds head last year? They will give Espinosa another season or partial.

Hammonds , I would hate to see how you react in a crisis.

this is hammonds (posting on cmd comp) ... whoa, morse brought his a-game?  he played terrible defense and stranded 28 runners.

this team is toast.

Offline Vega

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Re: LAC still lives on (2013 roster targets)
« Reply #37: October 10, 2012, 05:48:30 PM »
I have more important things to get depressed about.

Offline hammondsnats

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Re: LAC still lives on (2013 roster targets)
« Reply #38: October 10, 2012, 05:49:24 PM »
Jca I agree...trade bait.

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Re: LAC still lives on (2013 roster targets)
« Reply #39: October 10, 2012, 05:52:38 PM »
Austin Kearns and Kip Wells :clap:

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Re: LAC still lives on (2013 roster targets)
« Reply #40: October 10, 2012, 05:58:02 PM »
I may have over-estimated Espinosa during the year, but my view is any team that goes with a Defense-first SS is going to like having one who hits 15 - 20 HRs, steals a bit, and can get on at > .310 OBP.  I thin Alex Gonzalez played a number years with that sort of stat line, and there are others who play who can't do that.  You don't even have to slip to the yuni Betancourt level to find places he'd play.  That said, I just wonder if the fit is right here in terms of the roster and the offense.

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Re: LAC still lives on (2013 roster targets)
« Reply #41: October 10, 2012, 06:01:39 PM »
It took you long enough, but this is a point worth discussing. 

I think Espinosa has trade value to a team looking for a shortstop.  You could run Lombo out there until Rendon or Kobernus is ready, or you could make a deal. If you want to upgrade at 2d, who do you have in mind and how would you get him?

Espinosa has low value. His best traits (defense, walks, team friendly contract) aren't as valued in the market.

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Re: LAC still lives on (2013 roster targets)
« Reply #42: October 10, 2012, 06:05:29 PM »
Rebuilding the bullpen should be one of they priorities of the offseason. Too much mediocre crap out there. We need more power and guys that can get outs reliably.

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Re: LAC still lives on (2013 roster targets)
« Reply #43: October 10, 2012, 06:06:30 PM »
We already have a 2B who can play, foo.

Rendon?

Offline hammondsnats

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Re: LAC still lives on (2013 roster targets)
« Reply #44: October 10, 2012, 06:08:47 PM »
It sucks our season is over.  Damn shame.

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Re: LAC still lives on (2013 roster targets)
« Reply #45: October 10, 2012, 06:46:36 PM »
So, for the offseason, trade Morse to a team looking for 1B/DH help. See if you can get a 4/5 type starter out of it. Or at least a decent prospect.

Sign BJ Upton. Play Harper in RF, Upton in CF, Werth in LF.

Pick up LaRoche's option.

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Re: LAC still lives on (2013 roster targets)
« Reply #46: October 10, 2012, 06:47:26 PM »
It sucks our season is over.  Damn shame.

Ban hammondsnats until the Nationals are no longer playing 2012 baseball games.

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Re: LAC still lives on (2013 roster targets)
« Reply #47: October 10, 2012, 07:05:26 PM »
So, for the offseason, trade Morse to a team looking for 1B/DH help. See if you can get a 4/5 type starter out of it. Or at least a decent prospect.

Sign BJ Upton. Play Harper in RF, Upton in CF, Werth in LF.

Pick up LaRoche's option.

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p.s. be quiet houston. 

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Re: LAC still lives on (2013 roster targets)
« Reply #48: October 10, 2012, 07:07:45 PM »
nats


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Re: LAC still lives on (2013 roster targets)
« Reply #49: October 10, 2012, 07:10:12 PM »
what's with the Morse hate.  He is 4-12.  Sure if we could have chosen when his hits occurred we might have picked different times but he is doing what he always does, hitting the ball hard and getting on base roughly 1/4 to 1/3 of the time.  No way you get rid of Morse based on  his performance this series.