Author Topic: John Lannan (Read 2869 times)

hammondsnats · « **Topic Start:** June 17, 2008, 10:17:36 PM »

I'm sorry our offense sucks for you when you take the bump. I'm also sorry that umpire screwed you on that should've been strike 3 call on Joe Mauer. You deserve better than that and our whole fan base knows that. Keep doing what you have been, you're the ace of the team.

spidernat · « **Reply #1:** June 17, 2008, 10:21:14 PM »

hammondsnats you're a funny dude.

eckseid · « **Reply #2:** June 17, 2008, 10:21:19 PM »

Agreed

BerkeleyNat · « **Reply #3:** June 17, 2008, 10:23:12 PM »

Quote from: hammondsnats on June 17, 2008, 10:17:36 PM

I'm sorry our offense sucks for you when you take the bump. I'm also sorry that umpire screwed you on that should've been strike 3 call on Joe Mauer. You deserve better than that and our whole fan base knows that. Keep doing what you have been, you're the ace of the team.

Yeah, he just needs to hang in there. They'll be better days ahead for him. It's a shame that this kid basically needs to pitch a friggin no hitter to get a win.

ronnynat · « **Reply #4:** June 17, 2008, 10:23:32 PM »

It's good to see he's still getting the job done.

Btw, I think there's already a Lannan thread.

spidernat · « **Reply #5:** June 17, 2008, 10:24:29 PM »

One day Lannan will toss a no hitter.

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #6:** June 17, 2008, 10:24:51 PM »

Mediocre Tim Redding is 6-3 while John Lannan is 4-8.

On a team with an average offense Lannan would easily have 7 or 8 wins by now.

spidernat · « **Reply #7:** June 17, 2008, 10:25:45 PM »

Quote from: sportsfan882 on June 17, 2008, 10:24:51 PM

Mediocre Tim Redding is 6-3 while John Lannan is 4-8. (Image removed from quote.)

On a team with an average offense Lannan would easily have 7 or 8 wins by now.

There is something terribly wrong with that.

BerkeleyNat · « **Reply #8:** June 17, 2008, 10:32:36 PM »

Quote from: spidernat on June 17, 2008, 10:24:29 PM

One day Lannan will toss a no hitter.

Yeah, but he'll get a no decision because we'll also get no hit and then lose the game in extra innings.

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #9:** June 17, 2008, 10:38:44 PM »

Lannan is tied for 4th in the NL in losses with 8 yet is also 13th in the NL in ERA by starters.

NL ERA leaders:
Volquez (9-2) 1.64 ERA
Lincecum (8-1) 2.21 ERA
Sheets (7-1) 2.72 ERA
Dempster (8-2) 2.76 ERA
Santana (7-4) 2.85 ERA
Zambrano (8-2) 2.98 ERA
Webb (11-2) 3.01 ERA
Wainwright (6-3) 3.14 ERA
Hudson (7-5) 3.17 ERA
Hamels (7-4) 3.23 ERA
Cook (10-3) 3.29 ERA
Maddux (3-5) 3.31 ERA
Lannan (4-8) 3.36 ERA

He's in pretty good company there.

nats2playoffs · « **Reply #10:** June 17, 2008, 10:50:19 PM »

Quote from: spidernat on June 17, 2008, 10:24:29 PM

One day Lannan will toss a no hitter.

One season, Lannan will win 20 games.

John-Boy, please forgive our ROTTEN, STINKING, POORLY-MANAGED, PIECE OF CRAP "TEAM", WITH APOLOGIES TO REAL TEAMS FOR USING THE WORD "TEAM" IN CONNECTION WITH THIS JOKE OF A CLUB.

JMUalumni · « **Reply #11:** June 17, 2008, 11:08:07 PM »

Im sorry that our team has decided to give you the lowest run support in the MAJOR LEAGUES at 2.49 (lower after only 1 run tonight). I am also sorry that Acta decided to throw you under the bus by saying that the breaking ball you threw "wasnt in the scouting report for Moreau" instead of just leaving it at a "mistake."

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #12:** June 17, 2008, 11:29:25 PM »

Sportsline.com's Fantasy take on Lannan after tonight's game:

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Lannan is now 0-4 in his last five starts. He has lost three straight starts and has allowed only two runs in each outing. Lannan hasn't allowed more than three earned runs in his last six starts and has only one win to show for it. Tis' the luck for a Nationals pitcher. Lannan would likely be a must-start Fantasy SP if he played on a contender, but since he is backed by the Nationals, he is at-best a low-end Fantasy SP in mixed leagues. His next scheduled start is for Sunday against the Rangers.

The Chief · « **Reply #13:** June 17, 2008, 11:53:04 PM »

Makes you wonder why the offense is especially putrid when Lannan pitches.

Ali the Baseball Cat · « **Reply #14:** June 18, 2008, 12:01:06 AM »

Lots of santeria and voodoo in south Florida...I sense the evil work of a Marlins fan.

Quote from: The Chief on June 17, 2008, 11:53:04 PM

Makes you wonder why the offense is especially putrid when Lannan pitches.

Skipper88 · « **Reply #15:** June 18, 2008, 04:56:22 AM »

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Makes you wonder why the offense is especially putrid when Lannan pitches.

Black magic. Roger Clemens had two seasons in Houston where he was the best pitcher on the planet, but didn't have much of a W-L to show for it while playing for a team that WAS in playoff contention (unlike us).

In 2005 when the Astros finished 89-73 and were the wild card & the Rocket was 13-8 with a 1.87. At one point in the year he was something like 5-3 with a ton of no decisions.

In 2006 when they finished 82-80 just out of the wild card, Rocket was 7-6 with a 2.30 (only 19 starts).

Stuff like this just happens sometimes. What are you going to do??

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #16:** June 18, 2008, 05:36:35 AM »

Quote from: JMUalumni on June 17, 2008, 11:08:07 PM

Im sorry that our team has decided to give you the lowest run support in the MAJOR LEAGUES at 2.49 (lower after only 1 run tonight). I am also sorry that Acta decided to throw you under the bus by saying that the breaking ball you threw "wasnt in the scouting report for Moreau" instead of just leaving it at a "mistake."

Yeah that's awful. If I was Lannan I would be offended. How in the hell is he going to rip on the pitching when the offense only scored 1 run against Livo over 7 innings? As is usual the case, Manny put all the blame on the pitching and none on the offense which is the true culprit. According to Manny we should just bend over for old man Livan.

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"Usually, he pitches behind, prays on hitters' aggressiveness and make them chase when the hitters are ahead in the count," Acta said. "Tonight, he threw strike one and we got overly aggressive. He knows how to do that. He took advantage of our guys. He had very few pitches for seven innings."

2IPAs · « **Reply #17:** June 18, 2008, 07:33:39 AM »

Lannan got ejected his very first game in the majors for beaning two hitters. If he's mentally tough enough to have dealt with the razzing following that, I think he will survive our stinkeroo offense. He's been one of this season's pleasant surprises.

2IPAs · « **Reply #18:** June 18, 2008, 08:05:16 AM »

Quote from: Ali the Baseball Cat on June 18, 2008, 12:01:06 AM

Lots of santeria and voodoo in south Florida...I sense the evil work of a Marlins fan.

I hear kittens mewing plaintively and loudly.

tomterp · « **Reply #19:** June 18, 2008, 08:26:19 AM »

Quote from: The Chief on June 17, 2008, 11:53:04 PM

Makes you wonder why the offense is especially putrid when Lannan pitches.

Random probability

Nat of the Living Dead · « **Reply #20:** June 18, 2008, 08:54:14 AM »

Lannan is a smart kid. You can read what Manny said in a hundred different ways but Lannan admitted it was a mistake and he shouldn't have thrown the pitch. I don't think you can make Manny out to be the bad guy when he is absolutely right and the pitcher agrees.

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"It was a curveball, up, and he hit it a long way," Lannan said. "It was a mistake that ended up costing me. I threw a good one to him in his first at-bat. I figured if I threw the same kind of pitch ... I shouldn't have thrown that pitch in that same situation. It was a mistake."

But this loss and offense isn't going to keep him down I believe. He seems like a healthy fighter and this team really needs that right now.

spidernat · « **Reply #21:** June 18, 2008, 08:56:21 AM »

Quote from: Skipper88 on June 18, 2008, 04:56:22 AM

Black magic. Roger Clemens had two seasons in Houston where he was the best pitcher on STEROIDS and other PED's

fixed

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #22:** June 18, 2008, 09:08:31 AM »

Quote from: Nat of the LivingDead on June 18, 2008, 08:54:14 AM

Lannan is a smart kid. You can read what Manny said in a hundred different ways but Lannan admitted it was a mistake and he shouldn't have thrown the pitch. I don't think you can make Manny out to be the bad guy when he is absolutely right and the pitcher agrees.

But this loss and offense isn't going to keep him down I believe. He seems like a healthy fighter and this team really needs that right now.

If Manny is going to rip on Lannan for giving up 2 runs in 7 innings then he should rip on the offense for their inept hitting three times as much.

Ray D · « **Reply #23:** June 18, 2008, 09:16:58 AM »

Quote from: Skipper88 on June 18, 2008, 04:56:22 AM

In 2005 when the Astros finished 89-73 and were the wild card & the Rocket was 13-8 with a 1.87. At one point in the year he was something like 5-3 with a ton of no decisions.

Clemens problem in 2005 was that he used up his quota of runs for the season in his one game at RFK.

Nat of the Living Dead · « **Reply #24:** June 18, 2008, 09:17:34 AM »

Quote from: sportsfan882 on June 18, 2008, 09:08:31 AM

If Manny is going to rip on Lannan for giving up 2 runs in 7 innings then he should rip on the offense for their inept hitting three times as much.

But that's just it: I don't see him ripping anyone. He told the truth. That curve was not in the set gameplan and when Lannan strayed from it, it cost them. It's nothing but a learning experience which hopefully Lannan learns from.

Lannan isn't a seasoned vet. He still is a learning, young kid. A little tough love isn't going to hurt him. Of course, if Manny did nothing but coddle him, Manny would be accused of being "too soft." There is a happy middle and I don't think Acta crossed the line either way.